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15th April 2014, 15:54 #161Senior Member
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Well, we weren't exactly a client.
Originally Posted by Starter
Besides, now we are under NATO's umbrella.
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15th April 2014, 16:44 #162Senior Member
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When you are worried about a corrupt government the country you naturally want to join is Russia.
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15th April 2014, 17:15 #163Senior Member
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Given NATO's underwhelming response to Crimea and eastern Ukraine, I'm not sure I would count on being a member as protection from Russia. Originally Posted by gadjo_dilo
"Old roats am jake mit goats."
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15th April 2014, 19:38 #164Senior Member
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Ukraine is not a member but we are. NATO constitutes a system of collective defence whereby its member states agree to mutual defense in response to an attack by any external party. Originally Posted by Starter
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15th April 2014, 19:52 #165Senior Member
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I'm aware of what NATO is and what its supposed to do. However, what it says it will do and what the current reality could be (and probably is) are two different things. Originally Posted by gadjo_dilo
Ukraine is not a member but we are. NATO constitutes a system of collective defence whereby its member states agree to mutual defense in response to an attack by any external party.
Not to mention, what about an internal attack ala Crimea and now Ukraine."Old roats am jake mit goats."
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15th April 2014, 20:25 #166Senior Member
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What? The Treaty is just a joke? Originally Posted by Starter
I knew it.......
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0swV1Goq31U
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16th April 2014, 10:22 #167Senior Member
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Russian military have now moved into eastern Ukraine.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...-blog-16-april...Funny how ev'rything was roses when we held on to the guns...
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16th April 2014, 12:57 #168Senior Member
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Originally Posted by BleAivano
Those can't possibly be Russians. They have no insignia on their uniforms.
/end Putin
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16th April 2014, 14:54 #169Senior Member
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OK folks, you all owe me several pints of good craft beer! Originally Posted by BleAivano
"Old roats am jake mit goats."
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17th April 2014, 13:09 #170Senior Member
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Hold your horses please. I follow news on CNN, BBC, lenta.ru, and Russian Channel 1. I haven't seen in those sources or from the link above any real evidence that Russian troops are involved in east Ukraine. All I see is Ukrainian armor on its march to the East being bogged down in Ukrainian villages and towns because primarily ordinary people, unarmed and dressed in civilian clothes are trying to stop the military columns, often simply by forming a human shield on the road. Originally Posted by Starter
OK folks, you all owe me several pints of good craft beer!
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