WRC mainclass from 2027

**giu canbera** · Today, 03:32

Originally Posted by PLuto

Why? People with Rally2 can be normally on start. Also without Kit. And still can fight for overal win...

Can they? Whats the point of the kits then?
I got pessimist without reason? Can Paddon enter his 2x ERC champ car and beat those underdeveloped CorollasISH WRC2027?
If the answer is "YES" regarding 'performance levels" then Im happy.

**deephouse** · Today, 06:13

Originally Posted by PLuto

Why? People with Rally2 can be normally on start. Also without Kit. And still can fight for overal win...

Indeed, but that's just separate wins and not whole championship. Most of Rally2 drivers/teams can't afford all 14 rounds, so I really don't see a point in their logic. Do they want to increase numbers for each rallies or championship with that rule?

Well according to FIA WRC27 car is somehow superior and is miles ahead of Rally2 stock car, so that's why they introduced kit thing to bring it more closer. But Toyota his struggling to match the performance of stock Rally2 car, so no logic here at all.

Ok, let's be it, but again why ruin everything with 14 rounds rule? Whoever wants to fight for title, he should commit like this, having kit or no. And then why handicap lower class drivers/teams and not Ogier then? For comparision. Stupid rulemakers

**Ferranis** · Today, 09:15

Toyota is very much likely lying / sandbagging to not get BoP'ed or to hurt their Rally2 sales. I expect the end result miles ahead of the Rally2 in general (let's see what we hear now, since hurting Rally2 sales is less of a concern now due to still separate championships for all Rally2 cars).

To the Rally2 competing: As far as I understand, and it's really not easy to understand, the answer is no. They will still all be in their own WRC2 championship. Maybe we see the odd Rally2 placed better than a Toyota when bad things happen to said Toyota, but that's it

**SubaruNorway** · Today, 10:26

Remember what i said about corruption some weeks ago, even more obvious now. You can't have someone with economical interest make the rules.

**wyler** · Today, 10:26

Originally Posted by deephouse

Indeed, but that's just separate wins and not whole championship. Most of Rally2 drivers/teams can't afford all 14 rounds, so I really don't see a point in their logic. Do they want to increase numbers for each rallies or championship with that rule?

Well according to FIA WRC27 car is somehow superior and is miles ahead of Rally2 stock car, so that's why they introduced kit thing to bring it more closer. But Toyota his struggling to match the performance of stock Rally2 car, so no logic here at all.

Ok, let's be it, but again why ruin everything with 14 rounds rule? Whoever wants to fight for title, he should commit like this, having kit or no. And then why handicap lower class drivers/teams and not Ogier then? For comparision. Stupid rulemakers

i really don't get the problem here.

2026.
wrc championship: run with rally1, team with minimum 2 cars for every round.
WRC2 championship: run with rally2, no other restriction (but scoring in max 6-7 events).
singular races: everyone is up for the overall win

2027.
wrc championship: run with rally1 (new reg27) and rally2 kit, team with minimum 2 cars for every round.
WRC2 championship: run with rally2, no other restriction (but scoring in max 6-7 events).
singular races: everyone is up for the overall win

**WRCStan** · Today, 10:26

Originally Posted by deephouse

Ok, let's be it, but again why ruin everything with 14 rounds rule?

This rule is only for the constructors championship and it hasn't changed in 30 years and was never suggested was going to change. Driver and Codriver championships are not affected.

**WRCStan** · Today, 10:53

Originally Posted by SubaruNorway

Remember what i said about corruption some weeks ago, even more obvious now. You can't have someone with economical interest make the rules.

Not really Tor, you didn't give any detail.

But I will assume now you mean MW. I don't think there's any evidence to agree.

**deephouse** · Today, 11:00

Originally Posted by wyler

i really don't get the problem here.

2026.
wrc championship: run with rally1, team with minimum 2 cars for every round.
WRC2 championship: run with rally2, no other restriction (but scoring in max 6-7 events).
singular races: everyone is up for the overall win

2027.
wrc championship: run with rally1 (new reg27) and rally2 kit, team with minimum 2 cars for every round.
WRC2 championship: run with rally2, no other restriction (but scoring in max 6-7 events).
singular races: everyone is up for the overall win

Yes, but the difference is that in 2027 there will be 6 WRC27 cars (by Toyota) and 2 Rally2 Kit (M-Sport). Nobody takes seriously Project Rally One. Do you really think that those two M-Sport cars will fight for anything except stay on the road? We don't watch this sport just for overall wins but the whole championship where scores count at the end. Hyundai, Skoda, Lancia will not be there for that.

**WRCStan** · Today, 11:06

Originally Posted by deephouse

Yes, but the difference is that in 2027 there will be 6 WRC27 cars (by Toyota) and 2 Rally2 Kit (M-Sport). Nobody takes seriously Project Rally One. Do you really think that those two M-Sport cars will fight for anything except stay on the road? We don't watch this sport just for overall wins but the whole championship where scores count at the end. Hyundai, Skoda, Lancia will not be there for that.

So..................

What's the alternative? Rally2 provides nothing, nil, nada, rien, across the championship. Can't sell a TV package with Rally2 as sole class.

**deephouse** · Today, 11:07

Originally Posted by WRCStan

This rule is only for the constructors championship and it hasn't changed in 30 years and was never suggested was going to change. Driver and Codriver championships are not affected.

Nobody from stock rally2 will fight for title, nobody will suddenly become Ogier or Neuville, Evans, Tanak. And nobody from Rally2 kit will fight either as there will only two cars with that packages will exist for that rule (two Rally2 Fiestas). That 14 events rule as I understand is there that even if manufacturer wanted to offer those kits to customers they need to field two cars to be able to homologate that. Novoby will do that so the packages practicaly won't exist. And again as I said, if Rally2 stock will be able to fight for wins straight away, what is the point of Kits anyway? And also if more of drivers will be able to win (or fight) for title overall in a Rally2 car entering only half events as Ogier, then Toyota could do it to, and suddenly some events could end without top drivers. It's a mess up, created by FIA.