WRC mainclass from 2027

[WRCStan]

that's a drop in the ocean, and it's not mandatory to have...

No shit! But some believe forcing them to get rid of it will solve all of life's problems.

[WRCStan]

The 17 were perfectly fine rules, they could have build on that.

I read this here and then watched Maximum Attack where the 17 cars are the cause of what's wrong with rallying today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1Ful9HnPkQ

[Ferranis]

I read this here and then watched Maximum Attack where the 17 cars are the cause of what's wrong with rallying today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1Ful9HnPkQ

I appreciate his oppinion. Mine is that no one will watch WRC when the cars are boring (like Rally2). Rally is one of many types of entertainment and they all compete with each other. Good luck convincing new people to watch Rally with Rally2 cars.

The problem was not the cars (same as like now), but the return of investment

[WRCStan]

I appreciate his oppinion. Mine is that no one will watch WRC when the cars are boring (like Rally2). Rally is one of many types of entertainment and they all compete with each other. Good luck convincing new people to watch Rally with Rally2 cars.

Wholeheartedly agree, and it would be hard retaining people even, as there won't be any live product to watch if it got to this point anyway. Only hardcore rallyists are paying £13/month to watch privateers such as Prokop who he mentioned.

[Ferranis]

Wholeheartedly agree, and it would be hard retaining people even, as there won't be any live product to watch if it got to this point anyway. Only hardcore rallyists are paying £13/month to watch privateers such as Prokop who he mentioned.

I have WRC+ since inception on a yearly plan. Next year I will go back to monthly since I do not know if I want to spend that kind of money to watch Rally2 and Rally2 equivalent cars driving around.

WRC should never be in a situation like this where a fan has this kind of thoughts.

Additionally, what is forgotten about WRC2017 is that it was the start of a huge boom of the WRC. That it was squandered and ultimately killed with the Hybrids is not the fault of the 17's

[WRCStan]

Hybrids were the fault of the green agenda, not because anybody in rally wanted it. Paris Agreement was signed in 2016, Todt's WEF luvvy Calderon barged in to a climate position at the broke FIA, Purpose Driven sustainability agenda demanded hybrid with sustainable fuel and according to the net zero 2030 timeline, wrc should have seen ev and H2 cars by now. Those people are a joke. Fortunately MbS fucked Calderon off, and Trump and Musk have shown that crowd to be the evil scum they are. Unfortunately, they still rule the roost in Brussels and London, which is where the majority of rally people and target manufacturers are.

[wyler]

No shit! But some believe forcing them to get rid of it will solve all of life's problems.

never heard that.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Also, what about the big mega building that Hyundai have?

And they wouldn't even let us fans in it to see the cars being serviced or see the drivers.

Its purely for corporate visitor use, I guess they're trying to squeeze some RoI from it.

[deephouse]

And they wouldn't even let us fans in it to see the cars being serviced or see the drivers.

Its purely for corporate visitor use, I guess they're trying to squeeze some RoI from it.

Do they have this superior technology, strategies and secrets that other teams can't copy them? Even if they would hide nothing no one from other teams would scout over them.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hybrids were the fault of the green agenda, not because anybody in rally wanted it. Paris Agreement was signed in 2016, Todt's WEF luvvy Calderon barged in to a climate position at the broke FIA, Purpose Driven sustainability agenda demanded hybrid with sustainable fuel and according to the net zero 2030 timeline, wrc should have seen ev and H2 cars by now. Those people are a joke. Fortunately MbS fucked Calderon off, and Trump and Musk have shown that crowd to be the evil scum they are. Unfortunately, they still rule the roost in Brussels and London, which is where the majority of rally people and target manufacturers are.

To be fair most people were onboard with the idea of the 2022 cars being hybrids as at the time most manufacturers were already using this in their road cars, or they were aiming to go full EV. Toyota were already there years ago & Hyundai for a while, plus Ford very soon and then full EV. To stay in WRC there seemed to be a requirement that they wanted hybrid cars.

Fans were also broadly understanding and the idea of a car with 400bhp plus another 100bhp electric boost seemed amazing.

Sadly it failed in the execution (unreliable) and the high cost to run and repair.