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    I have a really hard time to be objective around next years rules to be honest, since I am a WRC17 super-fan. Hope it turns out well, but I expect it will be a hard sell for new fans. Old fans will stay more or less no matter what

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    its going to be fine, fellas.
    ask the ERC fans here. its totally ok, no joke.
    cars may be slower but you get over it once theres other stories to pay attention - and there will be.
    its like when f1 change stuff. people go crazy and talk & complain for months but then the focus shift to whats happening in the championship. its not a dramatic change like "we are going Evs, theres only 7 cars, 6 rounds and nobody can watch it"

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    Let's just hope that there are not that many people that think like me. High powered cars are a major part of WRC excitement for me and when I look in the past: Group B is so much loved for a reason.

    But be it as it may: Currently there is no alternative anyway. WRC got devalued by the promoter / fia that much, that this is the only way forward

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferranis View Post
    Let's just hope that there are not that many people that think like me. High powered cars are a major part of WRC excitement for me and when I look in the past: Group B is so much loved for a reason.

    But be it as it may: Currently there is no alternative anyway. WRC got devalued by the promoter / fia that much, that this is the only way forward
    It will never be a big a change as 1987 was, with the switch to Gp A after the Gp B monsters. Plus they were banned for safety, not changed because they needed more Manufacturers!

    Look at the Monte Carlo entry list for the cars we had to 'enjoy' ...

    https://ewrc-results.com/event/1576-...o-1987/entries

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    It will never be a big a change as 1987 was, with the switch to Gp A after the Gp B monsters. Plus they were banned for safety, not changed because they needed more Manufacturers!

    Look at the Monte Carlo entry list for the cars we had to 'enjoy' ...

    https://ewrc-results.com/event/1576-...o-1987/entries
    1987 was rough. The RAC rally was poor, made worse by the fact that the only team that had any hope of challenging Lancia, Mazda, didn’t turn up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubled1978 View Post
    1987 was rough. The RAC rally was poor, made worse by the fact that the only team that had any hope of challenging Lancia, Mazda, didn’t turn up.
    Also in the '87 BRC, Jimmy McRae started the season in a Lancia Delta HF owned by Lancia UKs director, with just a roll-cage fitted ! What a come down from the Group B beasts he'd had before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferranis View Post
    I doubt that. WRC27 are Rally2 cars with extra steps. They won't suddenly get more powerful or audio-visually more exciting.
    Wrong. There's only engine and powertrain in common. IF there's a flush new promoter than they could announce a RC2+ tune up in performance immediately for Rally1, and possibly full step up coming in a few years. In safety the chasses and cells are designed for a higher performance.

    This level was set to immediately get more competition and as a back stop for life without a flush promoter.

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    I expect (hope) that this will be the case. That we only have to suffer a year or two and then the new promoter ups the performance

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    ^ Agree.

    Brand new cars to last for decades and the Rally2 or Rally2 sourced - whatever it is - engine is not the long term sole solution.

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    They wanted to open the power train anyway with hybrid / electric. Hope its power too they want to increase at some point.

    Now the crucial part is actually retaining the new teams (tuners), allowing them to grow to make this financially viable

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