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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Hyundai did win the Manufacturer Title twice (2019 & 2020) and could well have won 2024 when their driver Neuville was World Champion.

    But about the comments of FX Demaison, he is probably right that the WRC27 could have many advantages over the Rally2 cars.

    As this is what they'll have next year (if they continue) then he might be getting his excuses in early. However unless they make a huge comeback this year I dont see how they will justify staying.
    Off topic, but I am a firm believer that Hyundai is a top team (maybe not this year, but still), that was massively let down by its drivers.

    Put Ogier / Tanak in the Team from 2017 onward and we would look at a dominating team with many constructor and individual championchips

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    Tanak was there twice, did you forget that? And koining Toyota team for testing and not Hyubndai, is quite clear it's the cars that let him down again and again. In that team there were so much great drivers and still they struggle year by year. We saw that if great drivers are put in M-Sport they can do miracles, which sadly can't be said for Hyundai. Based on results Hyundai did best when there was Adamo pulling the strings. I strongly believe that Neuville won the title simply because Ogier did too many mistakes. If he would drive like last year he would easily won that too. I blame Cyril to turn that team to worse, simply because he is not the right man for this sport. After so much years they could at least be somewhere, but they getting nowhere. If they continue like that in WEC where competition is way higher, intense I don't know how they will ever achieve great things. They've had so much chances through all those years in WRC when there was only 2-3 teams to compete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    Tanak was there twice, did you forget that? And koining Toyota team for testing and not Hyubndai, is quite clear it's the cars that let him down again and again. In that team there were so much great drivers and still they struggle year by year. We saw that if great drivers are put in M-Sport they can do miracles, which sadly can't be said for Hyundai. Based on results Hyundai did best when there was Adamo pulling the strings. I strongly believe that Neuville won the title simply because Ogier did too many mistakes. If he would drive like last year he would easily won that too. I blame Cyril to turn that team to worse, simply because he is not the right man for this sport. After so much years they could at least be somewhere, but they getting nowhere. If they continue like that in WEC where competition is way higher, intense I don't know how they will ever achieve great things. They've had so much chances through all those years in WRC when there was only 2-3 teams to compete.
    Ogier +Tanak + a promising 3. driver which initials are not T.N.

    Would have, could have, but I refuse to believe that they would have let the team develop this understeering thing that only ever (and only sometimes at that) suited Thierry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferranis View Post
    Off topic, but I am a firm believer that Hyundai is a top team (maybe not this year, but still), that was massively let down by its drivers.

    Put Ogier / Tanak in the Team from 2017 onward and we would look at a dominating team with many constructor and individual championchips
    What? The hybrid i20 in 2022 and 2023 was one of the most unreliable rally cars ever made, not even prime Loeb could have won the title with a car whose suspensions would fall apart on road sections. Only in 2024 it was close to Toyota, and in fact Neuville won the title. The hybridless + Hankook i20 in 2025 and 2026 is close to undriveable and much slower than Toyota more often than not.

    Tanak drove for Hyundai for 5 seasons, couldn't clinch the title and was fed up with the car's being slower and more unreliable than Toyota. Ogier couldn't handle the C3 having 2 powersteering failures in a whole season as sole reliability problems, let alone the Hyundai.

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