Page 21 of 21 FirstFirst ... 11192021
Results 201 to 206 of 206
  1. #201
    Senior Member PLuto's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Location
    Zlin
    Posts
    8,933
    Like
    565
    Liked 4,195 Times in 1,900 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by TypeR View Post
    And Jasper?
    Just being junior Toyota factory driver..
    Jasper is very good and talented driver. I have nothing against him. I am happy he is part of Toyota programme. It will help him also to cover the costs for his improvement. Only what I am criticising (for a long time) is "strange" and "mindless" programme of events for all their drivers... You can see that after Katsuta, they were not able to produce any driver able to fight for higher places in any championship. I am sure that Jasper will be over all other drivers in their programme, but not because of this programme, but because he started out of this programme... For sure for Jasper is better to drive anywhere than stay at home. But I still think that more suitable programme should be better for him and his progress.

  2. #202
    Senior Member Rallyper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Östhammar, Sweden
    Posts
    8,955
    Like
    6,241
    Liked 3,052 Times in 1,744 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by PLuto View Post
    Jasper is very good and talented driver. I have nothing against him. I am happy he is part of Toyota programme. It will help him also to cover the costs for his improvement. Only what I am criticising (for a long time) is "strange" and "mindless" programme of events for all their drivers... You can see that after Katsuta, they were not able to produce any driver able to fight for higher places in any championship. I am sure that Jasper will be over all other drivers in their programme, but not because of this programme, but because he started out of this programme... For sure for Jasper is better to drive anywhere than stay at home. But I still think that more suitable programme should be better for him and his progress.
    Agree. But details remain to be official about his programme. Or are they publical?

    You can do tests on a 5 K stage over and over again, just to learn driving smart and skillful. Or you let him drive rallies whatever they may be situated and whatever grade of competion. And learning will be even better. I recommend the latter. Maybe just what Toyota are doing...
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
    Tommi Mäkinen, back in the years...

  3. #203
    Senior Member flat_right's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2020
    Posts
    747
    Like
    514
    Liked 591 Times in 242 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    Agree. But details remain to be official about his programme. Or are they publical?

    You can do tests on a 5 K stage over and over again, just to learn driving smart and skillful. Or you let him drive rallies whatever they may be situated and whatever grade of competion. And learning will be even better. I recommend the latter. Maybe just what Toyota are doing...
    Program is public. https://toyotagazooracing.com/challe...calendar/2026/ and press on Global

    Upcoming events.

    • May 22–24 Royal Rally of Scandinavia (Sweden) ERC
    • June 12–13 Jyväskylä Rally (Finland) Finnish & Estonian Championships
    • July 16–19 Rally Estonia WRC (WRC2/Rally2 Debut)
    • July 30 – Aug 2 Secto Rally Finland WRC
    • September Two Asphalt Rallies (TBD) European Events
    • October 9–11 Rally de Portugal (ERC) ERC


    I think it is a decent calendar. Jaspar has said it many times in the interviews that this year's goal is not speed but to get experience. And this "goal" definitely comes from the people who advise him. And as we can see he will get his comparison with ERC and WRC regulars. Of course you could throw him into deep water but it could backfire when he would maybe push too much to be on pace with regular drivers. Let him develop in his own speed and let's see in couple of years where he is. The speed is there, everyone can see that but what he needs is some experience.

  4. Likes: Rallyper (Today)
  5. #204
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2020
    Posts
    430
    Like
    43
    Liked 277 Times in 153 Posts
    I'm not an expert, but it's his first season coming into 4WD and his goal is to gain experience, obviously.

    If he had more complete programme, there would the pressure to get results, even if everyone would say results don't matter, the pressure would be there.

    Having seamingly random events allows them to focus purely on gaining the experience. Sure, there are obvious downsides as you said, but it isn't as important in year 1.

    Also idk if event selection is the reason why Toyota haven't produced any other driver than Katsuta. Even Katsuta wasn't consistently fighting at the top until this season. Which is his 10th year as Toyota driver btw, and 6th as full-time WRC driver.

  6. #205
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2018
    Location
    Milkyway -> Earth -> Europe -> Slovenia
    Posts
    1,527
    Like
    124
    Liked 568 Times in 332 Posts
    Katsuta was on a verge for a few years already, I especially think he would be out if Kalle wouldn't retire from rallying. With 2 wins he concreted his position in the team now. Also Pajari showing he could win event in a time. Toyota have such a strong lineup everywhere it's rather hard to think who could be replaced. Now also Tanak knocking on the door again. But in a year or few years when Ogier will retire full time, Toyota could have Vasper or Yamamoto or who he is again ready to step up.

  7. #206
    Senior Member Rallyper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Östhammar, Sweden
    Posts
    8,955
    Like
    6,241
    Liked 3,052 Times in 1,744 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by flat_right View Post
    Program is public. https://toyotagazooracing.com/challe...calendar/2026/ and press on Global

    Upcoming events.

    • May 22–24 Royal Rally of Scandinavia (Sweden) ERC
    • June 12–13 Jyväskylä Rally (Finland) Finnish & Estonian Championships
    • July 16–19 Rally Estonia WRC (WRC2/Rally2 Debut)
    • July 30 – Aug 2 Secto Rally Finland WRC
    • September Two Asphalt Rallies (TBD) European Events
    • October 9–11 Rally de Portugal (ERC) ERC


    I think it is a decent calendar. Jaspar has said it many times in the interviews that this year's goal is not speed but to get experience. And this "goal" definitely comes from the people who advise him. And as we can see he will get his comparison with ERC and WRC regulars. Of course you could throw him into deep water but it could backfire when he would maybe push too much to be on pace with regular drivers. Let him develop in his own speed and let's see in couple of years where he is. The speed is there, everyone can see that but what he needs is some experience.
    Agree completely. Driving rallies, competition or not, is best way of having a learning process.
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
    Tommi Mäkinen, back in the years...

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •