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    I think wrc27 spaceframe is quite close to Gr.B actually, only diffence is the 200 roadcars they had to build then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    All this talk of Tuners and their 2027-spec cars coming in to WRC is all very well, but how are they going to be competitive against the Manufacturer teams that enter ?

    Where is the budget to test and develop the car coming from and to pay a top driver if they want their car to beat the likes of Toyota, Hyundai and even Lancia (Stellantis) ?

    Otherwise the cars are just going to be for also-rans and the extra cars at the top level will be pointless.
    This is something I wondered about too. I can only imagine they are hoping to sell enough cars to privateers to make it viable, or speculating some manufacturer with no internal motorsport department might pay them to change the bodywork and stick their badge on the bonnet.

    At least these cars will be cheaper to develop and run than Rally1, otherwise I don’t see that this would be possible at all.

    Is there going to be some new second tier class to replace Rally2 in the long run, based on proper cars? Or maybe some official FIA electric production car based class?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WRCStan View Post
    How is Rally2 or anything else different?
    Because they're not the top Class, not competing with the big boys, which these 2027 Cars will be.

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    A question for the technical people: can tuners who are not following a road car shape gain some speed advantage from that? Can they do better aero, or put the wheels nearer the corners, or keep fragile bits away from bumps in the road, or anything like that?

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    Dont all Constructors have to sell these new cars (chassis) to anyone who wants one ? So wont everyone just buy the Toyota to get the best and not bother with some shed-built private one ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skarderud View Post
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    I don't know what that is but it isn't WRC2027.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Dont all Constructors have to sell these new cars (chassis) to anyone who wants one ? So wont everyone just buy the Toyota to get the best and not bother with some shed-built private one ?
    How is Rally2 or anything else different?

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    So in theory an independant tuner could turn up with a WRC27 car and a 1980's GpB lookalike body within reason without the 1980's wings. Or something that looks like a Lancia Stratos or Mk2 Escort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry hairpin View Post
    So in theory an independant tuner could turn up with a WRC27 car and a 1980's GpB lookalike body within reason without the 1980's wings. Or something that looks like a Lancia Stratos or Mk2 Escort.
    Not without hearing from Lancia or Ford legal department. So, no.

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    what? i could swear i read that builders needed to have some kinda of manufacturer 'agreement' and that the body pannels needed to be more or less like an actual road car. i think NOT having to follow that is even better. i remember thinking "ahh but then they arent going to find manufacturers willing to autorize them to build cars". good news imo haha

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