WRC mainclass from 2027

**1988senna** · 21st October 2025, 14:38

Any reliable sources now mention that Skoda, Lancia, MSport,Hyundai will confirm to join 2027 group one??

**WRCStan** · 21st October 2025, 17:15

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

Developing a brand new car to compete under the World Rally Championship’s new 2027 technical regulations remains the priority for M-Sport , rather than upgrading its Rally2 car.

https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...2027/10769883/

"“Why would we waste a year trying to up spec our Rally2 car and then do a new car? It is only Toyota there for the first half of the year"

Ring the rumour bell, what's the context here?

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 22nd October 2025, 10:00

Originally Posted by WRCStan

"“Why would we waste a year trying to up spec our Rally2 car and then do a new car? It is only Toyota there for the first half of the year"

Ring the rumour bell, what's the context here?

Is he suggesting M-Sport wont have their car ready until mid-2027, as they wont start on it until the new Regs are signed off ?

**PLuto** · 22nd October 2025, 10:03

Originally Posted by 1988senna

Any reliable sources now mention that Skoda, Lancia, MSport,Hyundai will confirm to join 2027 group one??

Only one currently developing something like Rally1 car is Toyota. Despite regulations are not finalised yet. Other mentioned manufacturers are not developing car according to the new regulations. And they are also not so much interested in Rally2 with bigger aero and restrictor...

**dck1989** · 29th October 2025, 11:58

One can only dream that Subaru will one day be back in the top level of rallying...perfect sized car ready to go.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQYiVkqj7lt/

**WRCStan** · Yesterday, 20:45

Can somebody with a YT account drop a comment to Jon, poor chap is confused and spreading fake news https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQKdoIA8yPI

a) M-Sport did not rule out building a 2027 car, they ruled it out for the 2027 season and that decision has very little to do with Ford. They are all in on the 2027 car.

b) Top class ≠ manufacturer's championship. Rally2 is already top class for 2027. There's no need to switch to Rally2 for 2027 to get more makes in the top class. Switching to only Rally2 is not going to make manufacturers any more willing, that's a commercial matter not costs nor technical, and it isn't a makes championship. Manufacturer participation is key to a manufacturers championship, the clue is in the name. Unless there are interested participating manufacturers, there will still only be Toyota as *willing* manufacturer and they've said yes please to space frames. Yes, opening up to Rally2 will see options for which other manufacturers the promoter can support to an invite to field a team, and that's why they're doing it, and I know a fan would see that as a boon for Rally2, but in reality it isn't a good idea to expect Toyota to pay for everything whilst you also tell them to piss off.

**Fast Eddie WRC** · Today, 11:12

I think he knows all that but wanted to make a video to air his opinion and titled it to get views and comments.

His main serious point is that the spaceframe cars should be delayed until at least 2028 when everything has been finalised in terms of Regs, Manufacturer/ Tuners commitment, balance of performance being confirmed and the direction from the new Promoter.

Having just Toyota with a WRC27 Car isnt going to be fair or viable for the Championship

**deephouse** · Today, 15:43

He also says that Toyota almost have a prototype WRC27 car READY. That's HUGE. I can't find it anywhere on the web.

Even if FIA would delay new regulations until 2028, Toyota would still have advantage, since they already doing their job. What is concerning if FIA will not move their asses soon, it could end with only Rally2 cars available, and even then it's not guaranteed anybody would be on the start list besides privateers. It could mean that if they would scrap regulations, that even Toyota could give them middle finger and walk away (throwing their hard work and money into toilet). That would mean that championship would DIE instantly. So it's crazy situation that nobody can predict for sure, what will happen.

**WRCStan** · Today, 16:59

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

I think he knows all that but wanted to make a video to air his opinion and titled it to get views and comments.

His main serious point is that the spaceframe cars should be delayed until at least 2028 when everything has been finalised in terms of Regs, Manufacturer/ Tuners commitment, balance of performance being confirmed and the direction from the new Promoter.

Having just Toyota with a WRC27 Car isnt going to be fair or viable for the Championship

Toyota are the only force making the championship viable. Fairness is a fan's mental construct.

He's also dead against spaceframes existing at all at any point.