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    At split 1 he was +0,2 on Munster...
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    Cachon fast again on this one, 3.3 faster as Oliver

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    Hyundai's fundamental design flows will probably be impossible to cure in the current car. The rear twitch exiting tight corners is evident all too often. Toyota is far better balanced machine. The drivers will have to pull miracles when stage conditions demand smooth flow and not raw power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TypeR View Post
    the rule isn't surprising, but these penalty decisions are inconsistent and giving it now is surprising.
    it isn't some local amateur rally that every touch of a barrel or haybale is automatic penalty.



    at least he didn't get 5min penalty for hurting this haybale
    Touching haybale is not important. You must move it from original position. For example in Czech championship we have quite clear rules about chicanes and crews knows from beginning what will be penalty for which situation. We are giving 30 seconds penalty (for missing chicane completely or moving haybale completely from the circle marked on road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLuto View Post
    Touching haybale is not important. You must move it from original position. For example in Czech championship we have quite clear rules about chicanes and crews knows from beginning what will be penalty for which situation. We are giving 30 seconds penalty (for missing chicane completely or moving haybale completely from the circle marked on road.
    I think the rule itself is a bit stupid - the one who touched the haybell that much that it moved from its position completely, most likely already got punished by this mistake, and did not gain anything from it. In case it was not possible to move the haybell back to the correct place, every following car can make the cut and get the benefit.

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    The thing is there were drivers exploiting the chicane by moving it out of the way on purpose. If I remember correctly Ogier did it a few years ago quite blatantly and got done for. Whoever is surprised by such a penalty every now and then is probably also surprised that there are regulations to which these cars are built and need to adhere.

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    The penalty is ridiculous because Evans didn’t gain anything with it, he rather lost time based on the split times

    You could punish them then also by losing the mirrors when touching them or not everyone taking the same line as first car on the road

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    Quote Originally Posted by becher View Post
    The thing is there were drivers exploiting the chicane by moving it out of the way on purpose. If I remember correctly Ogier did it a few years ago quite blatantly and got done for. Whoever is surprised by such a penalty every now and then is probably also surprised that there are regulations to which these cars are built and need to adhere.
    I doubt anyone can win time by pushing a heavy object out of the way. The later cars might get and advantage, but the one pushing will lose time.
    Only brushing it might gain you something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLuto View Post
    Touching haybale is not important. You must move it from original position. For example in Czech championship we have quite clear rules about chicanes and crews knows from beginning what will be penalty for which situation. We are giving 30 seconds penalty (for missing chicane completely or moving haybale completely from the circle marked on road.
    However I do think we need to separate WRC from National rules.
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    Ogier picked the stage and went to attack

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