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Thread: WRC mainclass from 2027
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1st August 2025, 23:05 #411Senior Member
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My understanding is that Car/ vehicle manufacturers have fleet (over the range of vehicles they make) emission targets to meet at certain years in the future. (EU fleet CO2 emissions by 2030, for passenger cars to be a reduction of 55% compared to 2021 levels)
Very likely that European manufacturers of passenger cars are not going to be promoting their liquid carbon fuel burning models to meet the targets and avoid fines.
For this year, up to June 2025 Europe new car market sales are now slightly over 50 percent for sales of new battery electric cars (15.6%) combined with hybrid electric (34.8%).
The small shop race/ rally car builders can see that support is going to come from only a few manufacturers who want to continue to support the liquid fuels with their brand in motorsport.
e.g We have seen for a long time support for the TCR small car international track race category runs warm and cold from certain manufacturers.
Brazil, 2025 can get close to 30 new spaceframe cars on the grid for their Stock Car Pro series labelled as Mitsubishi, Chevrolet and Toyota.
If the FIA comes to the table the N5 category might be a (at least ) regionally (non large manufacturer) homologated budget class (rally field supplementer) as manufacturers do not care so much about a small number of liquid fuel burners at the back of a rally field, especially if the big brand manufacturers do not have to put any money into it and can distance themselves from the fuel race/ rally cars. https://www.gotothegrid.com/en/blog/...tive-to-rally2 (2024)Last edited by Humber; 1st August 2025 at 23:22.
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2nd August 2025, 08:58 #412Senior Member
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3rd August 2025, 00:47 #413Senior Member
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The cars have to comply with the "NGTC" rules that the BTCC organisers wrote in 2011. Unfortunately they are on a password protected site. There's a general summary here https://btcc.net/about/key-rules-and-regulations/ with a link to this year's championship sporting & additional technical rules. They doesn't answer your question but the web page does say:
So it looks like there's no need for a link between a team and the manufacturer of the car they're using.The NGTC regulations allows independent teams to compete on a level playing field against manufacturer-backed efforts by keeping costs down whilst at the same time rewarding precise engineering and all-important split-second strategy.
There is also a link to a summary of the 2027 rules, here https://btcc.net/about/2027-technical-regulations/ which statesClearly any current restriction the BTCC has about cars needing to be sold in the UK wouldn't be relevant to WRC but the principle of letting independant teams develop thier own cars and compete against manufacturers might open a door for the likes of Prodrive & Paddon to join MSport in the WRC. The only battle they'd then have would be budget, for which we really need WRC Promoter to do a better job of marketing the championship so that sponsors are easier to get involved.Firstly, TOCA has unlocked the necessity for the specific model of the car to be sold in the UK.
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3rd August 2025, 13:03 #414Senior Member
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we haven't had a european manufacturer in the championship since 2019, so maybe it's time to stop caring about them. Europe is fucked anyway with the grazy green fundamentalists at the rudder.
But there are a lot of opportunities in the rest of the world. a lot of people wo still want progress and not degrowth.
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But rallysport is based on money from manufacturers. Not only on WRC level, but also in lot of national championships local dealers are supporting the drivers. But for sure bigger problem it is on the highest level, because FIA and promoter lives from money from manufacturers (WRC level, homologation fees etc.). Also dont forget that in rallysport car are going on normal roads, not only on closed roads during special stages. So they must follow some rules to be able to run on normal roads...
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7th August 2025, 12:56 #416Senior Member
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Toyota's Tom Fowler about the 2027 engine regulations...
https://rallyjournal.com/major-revel...lready-agreed/
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9th August 2025, 07:54 #419Senior Member
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News regarding WRC world are always late (too late). All other series do have big announcements way earlier than we got here in WRC. We only get some crumbs in a shape of rumours and that last until the december. And at the end nothing new come out.
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12th August 2025, 16:21 #420
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/t...ules/10750260/
Some more news regarding the roll cage of the ‘27 cars.Only you know your true potential.
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