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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    That's harsh & unfair on M-Sport.
    Harsh, sure. But unfair, how? Currently, M-Sport is just an also-ran, backmarker, shadow of their former glory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonkka View Post
    Harsh, sure. But unfair, how? Currently, M-Sport is just an also-ran, backmarker, shadow of their former glory.
    We were talking about disconnecting the Front ARB situation. The Puma isn't that bad in general - Loeb and Tanak won events in it and Fourmaux had multiple podiums.

    Their overall position this year is clearly down to their drivers and lack of budget compared to the giants of Toyota and Hyundai.
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    Did Josh bin it this morning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwbroe View Post
    Did Josh bin it this morning?
    Yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    We were talking about disconnecting the Front ARB situation. The Puma isn't that bad in general - Loeb and Tanak won events in it and Fourmaux had multiple podiums.

    Their overall position is clearly down to their drivers and lack of budget compared to the giants of Toyota and Hyundai.
    M-Sport's problem is money, money and money. Bashing the car and drivers is pointless because those can be only remedied with money which the team does not have. And doesn't seem to be able to get. Therefore, it's death spiral. No money means no results and no results mean no sponsorship deals. Since this is thread for Canarias event and not M-Sport, I leave my commentary at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli View Post
    But hey those hankook tyres are durable no? oh wait…well they have 3 years (including this) to improve.
    Are you judging Hancock tyres from one puncture, or how many have you counted?
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    Are you judging Hancock tyres from one puncture, or how many have you counted?
    I was merely kidding, it’s only their first year and first time in the WRC so judgement should only be made once the season is over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli View Post
    But hey those hankook tyres are durable no? oh wait…well they have 3 years (including this) to improve.
    IMO the tires have been very good so far.

    Pirelli was much much worse when they joined.

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    Good job Adrien Fourmaux, best of the Hyundai's.

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    Hyundai’s worst Tarmac weekend since Deutschland 2019(?) can anyone confirm please.
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