Rally Discussion and Bar Talk Thread

[dimviii]

On sale, yes. On the road no, they're very rare, at least in the places I live. In other European countries it could be different.

same at Greece.At which country are you reffering?

[deephouse]

It's because the chinese cars are not cheaper than regular cars sold here. Sellers here think that they are something special and people fall for that.

[focus206]

same at Greece.At which country are you reffering?

In Italy and in Slovenia I can say Chinese cars are very rare on the road. In other parts of Europe maybe they're more common, I don't know. My guess is they're quite rare in all of Europe.

Here in Italy we have a brand called "Evo", which is a sub-brand of "DR", which is a brand that sells imported, rebadged Chinese cars since the late 2000's. Evo tries to put the Italian flag near their logos to make people who don't know about cars think it's a cheap local car.
DR and Evo are the only brands of Chinese origins I've seen here, but rarely, and a Great Wall pick-up twice in my life.
We have a big Chinese community in Italy, and they usually drive German cars.

[skarderud]

In norway we have lots of uninterresting chinese EV cars trying to brake into the market.
Im not shure how long they going to try though, hongqi sold surprisingly many cars 3 years ago, like 2000 or something, last year like 7, and it has been lots of losses for secondhand cars.

Polestar is one of few chinese, or part atleast?, that has decent sales as i know of.

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

They're still pretty rare in the UK but they're growing sales in the EV sector, especially the MG brand.

My local dealer (Peoples, who has been Ford for 50+ years) has just also become a dealer for Jaecoo and Omoda.

[Mary Mary]

They're still pretty rare in the UK but they're growing sales in the EV sector, especially the MG brand.

My local dealer (Peoples, who has been Ford for 50+ years) has just also become a dealer for Jaecoo and Omoda.

Will probably sell about as many as SsangYong unless they start advertising.

BYD are as popular as, or more so, Polestar now, and GWM have also set up shop with their Ora cars. And not forgetting the London Taxi Company.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Will probably sell about as many as SsangYong unless they start advertising.

They're advertising on the front page of the local paper every night - a fully-loaded, large SUV for £279pm at 0% APR and includes 4 years servicing & a 7-Year Warranty.

[Rallyper]

They're advertising on the front page of the local paper every night - a fully-loaded, large SUV for £279pm at 0% APR and includes 4 years servicing & a 7-Year Warranty.

That I call Chinese funding...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

That I call Chinese funding...

Indeed. The European manufacturers cant compete on price / value and even the Koreans will struggle.

The mass-market, especially the EV, is going to the Chinese unless there's some protection like Trump says he'll do in America.

[Morte66]

With Pajari in WRC1 next year, I will need a new WRC2 guy to support.

I would like someone who:
- will get covered on rally.tv (there's not much point if I can't watch him)
- is on the up, a prospect for the future
- does the tarmac events for points, since I mostly watch tarmac rallies.
- ideally, pace notes in English, but this is more of a tie-breaker.

I had McErlean in mind, thinking he might get a WRC2 drive, but he's going to WRC1 instead.

So, any suggestions?