[WRC] FORUM8 Rally Japan 2024

[becher]

The wohle Mikkelsen point loss in the PS vs. Tänak point loss on Sunday needs to be looked at with a bit of context I think.

As soon as Tänak was out, both Mikkelsen and Neuville just had to go as f* fast as possible no matter the consequences. It was a clear win it or bin it situation at that point.

But anyway Abitebul gets a lot of shit thrown at him for no reason, yet he put it perfectly how they lost the championship throughout the year.

[AE1WRC]

Ogier binned it for 3 rallies straight and I didn’t see that the fans painted him as such a villain and blamed him for everything as Tänak is being done now.

Most probably because he is an 8 time champ and considered one of the GOATs. GOATs can get away with everything.

[trykmann]

Most probably because he is an 8 time champ and considered one of the GOATs. GOATs can get away with everything.

In the end Toyota won the championship and it didn't happen on the last event.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

You have to bear in mind the circumstances in Japan (it being the last event) so everyone knew what they had to do to win the Manus.This wasnt the case when Ogier and Rovanpera made their Sunday mistakes on earlier events.

Tanak and Mikkelsen both knew the stakes were high and let the team down at the crucial moment.

[deephouse]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/did-t...oyotas-season/ latest podcast... I caught something regarding of Fourmaux and their commitment, but it's just some clues. They ask Cyril about it and he tell in a way they will indeed have 3rd full time driver, so it's first clue it is Adrien there. No surprise actualy. And then they mentioned that Hyundai could actually run 3 programmes simultaneously and that the rallying should be on the board. Well I hope.

It's kind of sad that you read on the other series that manufacurers are keep coming to them, despite the already have huge amount of them... Latest is Land Rover in Dakar 2026. And Cadillac in F1. And here... Here nothing... even those wjho are left are weighing on leaving or staying... very sad at the moment. I hope that this year's stories will somehow pump blood in recognition of the sport again.

[becher]

I just read Clarks driver ratings, I know he is biased towards certain drivers but "alternative facts" are a new low.

He claimed Ogier was the fastest man all weekend, someone should tell him that the second leg is not the whole weekend.

Also Katsutas raiting is the same as Ogier, Neuville and Evans for what reason?

[AE1WRC]

I just read Clarks driver ratings, I know he is biased towards certain drivers but "alternative facts" are a new low.

He claimed Ogier was the fastest man all weekend, someone should tell him that the second leg is not the whole weekend.

Also Katsutas raiting is the same as Ogier, Neuville and Evans for what reason?

Why are people taking Clark's ratings seriously ? I would rather read the ratings of Luke or David (both of them I really like to read their articles and listen them on the podcast)

[wyler]

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It's kind of sad that you read on the other series that manufacurers are keep coming to them, despite the already have huge amount of them... Latest is Land Rover in Dakar 2026. And Cadillac in F1. And here... Here nothing... even those wjho are left are weighing on leaving or staying... very sad at the moment. I hope that this year's stories will somehow pump blood in recognition of the sport again.

that's not entirely true. wrc would have manufactures coming too with a bit of openness toward them. the management is trying but there's refusal also from the fans!!! there were lots of rumors about manufacturers ready to commit, but looking for some kind of ev (lancia, renault). now there's some kind of opening if the new reg rumors are true, but you can read already here on this forum people moaning about "a mess of a reg" and at the very same time "lack of new manus"...

[becher]

Why are people taking Clark's ratings seriously ? I would rather read the ratings of Luke or David (both of them I really like to read their articles and listen them on the podcast)

I'm not taking them properly serious but I was still surprised that he didn't even bother check stage times.

[deephouse]

that's not entirely true. wrc would have manufactures coming too with a bit of openness toward them. the management is trying but there's refusal also from the fans!!! there were lots of rumors about manufacturers ready to commit, but looking for some kind of ev (lancia, renault). now there's some kind of opening if the new reg rumors are true, but you can read already here on this forum people moaning about "a mess of a reg" and at the very same time "lack of new manus"...

Like that we have some say in all of this. Even when they give us that survey what future should look alike, they give only answers, that are good for them. And at the end screw that too. I don't agree at all that they are trying, well maybe now a little, but deciding the rules at the last moment, getting forward and backwards and again forwards without any real clue is clearly not trying.