[WRC] Rallye Automobile Monte-Carlo 2025

[deephouse]

first thing i'd do after deciding to ditch the HY would be to just beg TGR/HWRT to rent their cars if theres demand. we know they have more than 10 cars in their shops. its still expensive, but its not a million bucks anymore, right? jeez cant promoter/fia/teams get to a point where they realize everybody would win if they rent those +10 cars to people for cheap prices? why to just keep them shut in the shop? just rent them for r5 prices, whatever. (haha me, a bad bussiness man!... tho is not like TOYOTA and HYUNDAI are in need of money, eh)

I think it's more than if someone right comes in those cars, that they would be better than official drivers, and then it would be bad image to manufacturs.

If we assume with hybrid unit that the car costs 1million and without (unit is 150.000€), then thatnumber don't change much. Even M-Sport admitted that building car for that amount isn't a problem at all. It's running cost that it's worrying. And now with that number significantly increasing the only solution is to drop it.

We already are almost sure Hyundai will leave soon. But losing also M-Sport over this would be the last nail in the coffin (they are the sport, their herritage, they are here forever and was when everyone leaved).

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Loriaux doesn't see any problem with the late switch to non-hybrid or the need for extra testing...

“I don’t think we need to test more without hybrid,” he said. “If anything, in some ways it’s easier without hybrid. For sure, the car is less complicated and the settings are easier, so I wouldn’t say we need more test days if we take out the hybrid."

[TypeR]

Noticed from regulations that tyre sizes are different from last year(at least for rally MC).

Overall they are all narrower and from model name, RC1 and 2 use same tyres.. hopefully RC1's are stronger..

In 2024 slicks and snows for rc1/rc2 were same dimensions, but 2025 snow ones are narrower..

2024:
slicks
RC1/RC2 - 235/45R18
RC3 - 205/45R17

2025:
slicks
RC1/RC2 - 225/40R18
RC3 - 195/50R17

both snow ones narrower.

[ictus]

Noticed from regulations that tyre sizes are different from last year(at least for rally MC).

Overall they are all narrower and from model name, RC1 and 2 use same tyres.. hopefully RC1's are stronger..

I bet if you put them next to each other they'll be the same size, or marginally different.
It's just different mesurements from different tire manufactures

[Mary Mary]

Noticed from regulations that tyre sizes are different from last year(at least for rally MC).

Overall they are all narrower and from model name, RC1 and 2 use same tyres.. hopefully RC1's are stronger..

In 2024 slicks and snows for rc1/rc2 were same dimensions, but 2025 snow ones are narrower..

2024:
slicks
RC1/RC2 - 235/45R18
RC3 - 205/45R17

2025:
slicks
RC1/RC2 - 225/40R18
RC3 - 195/50R17

both snow ones narrower.

I've not looked at the documents but is there confusion with snow and ice? To me, a 'snow tyre' belongs at Rally Sweden in 'gravel' spec.

[satnav]

I've not looked at the documents but is there confusion with snow and ice? To me, a 'snow tyre' belongs at Rally Sweden in 'gravel' spec.

In Monte what they call a snow tyre is what we call a winter tyre for normal road use.

[satnav]

Tyres used in Monte , the snow tyre is on the left to be used with or without studs

[Panosaurio]

Hi there, next January will be my first time at monte and since I'm from Costa Rica I don't really know much about how things are done there and I'd like to ask some questions. I'd like to see a night stage with flares and all that fan show, do you all know if there will be a stage of those kinds, maybe ss1 or ss2? And also we are renting a car, I suppose there is park zones around? Btw, are snow tires enough for the weather or is it better to use chains?

[becher]

Hi there, next January will be my first time at monte and since I'm from Costa Rica I don't really know much about how things are done there and I'd like to ask some questions. I'd like to see a night stage with flares and all that fan show, do you all know if there will be a stage of those kinds, maybe ss1 or ss2? And also we are renting a car, I suppose there is park zones around? Btw, are snow tires enough for the weather or is it better to use chains?

From what I've heard Monte is very difficult. People say you have to get to the stages very early and wait there a long time as there are little access roads available and stage hopping is therefore difficult as well. Snow tires should enough, but it really depends on the weather and were you plan to spectate (altitude).

[stavrosGDB]

Actually the Hankooks are a bit wider