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    This sounds quite a good idea to better protect the side of the car but I suppose the big issue would be it making access into and out of the car more difficult.

    So instead of adding to the roll cage, couldn't the beam be welded onto the door itself and the whole door frame be strengthened ?

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    interesting! thats the kind of "new set of rules" R5s need. some safety upgrade.
    after reading cyril interview i started to wonder if they were jumping out from this class because there would be a total shifting in everything, but yea, as eddie said, theres way too many R5s already out there and new skodas, msports and toyotas being selled right now. theres c3s, polos and i20 still being bought and sold among racers and teams. cyril was probably making excuses to not say "hyundai is just not interested in rallying anymore"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    This sounds quite a good idea to better protect the side of the car but I suppose the big issue would be it making access into and out of the car more difficult.

    So instead of adding to the roll cage, couldn't the beam be welded onto the door itself and the whole door frame be strengthened ?
    I would not put the beam in the door itself, but I would definitely reinforce the door frame adding as much energy dissipative material as possible, waiting for a lateral crash to happen......This is a crash structure.

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    saw some 2013-2014 wrc footage with those top class cars. they look veeeery similar to current R5s, eh? in terms of speed and driving, are them similar as it looks? tho they (wrc top class in 14') were waaaay more "loose" - on the visual aspect - while current modern R5s looks super tight, almost glued to the surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Abiteboul confirms more development for the i20 Rally2 but production will be discontinued at the end of the year...

    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/whats...is-rally2-car/
    That is sad news. Just 6 months ago they introuced their i20 N Rally2 European Challenge and now they leave?
    https://motorsport.hyundai.com/new-i...ean-challenge/
    http://www.rallymadness.prv.pl - rally photos and movies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by saco0o View Post
    saw some 2013-2014 wrc footage with those top class cars. they look veeeery similar to current R5s, eh? in terms of speed and driving, are them similar as it looks? tho they (wrc top class in 14') were waaaay more "loose" - on the visual aspect - while current modern R5s looks super tight, almost glued to the surface.
    2014 WRC cars... that's 10 years ago. There's been a lot of technological development since then in suspension and aero, even in the R5/RALLY2 cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    2014 WRC cars... that's 10 years ago. There's been a lot of technological development since then in suspension and aero, even in the R5/RALLY2 cars.
    yes, true. but what I tried to say (and failed) was that those cars looked cooler than modern R5s because they looked way more loose on the tracks. personal taste, probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saco0o View Post
    yes, true. but what I tried to say (and failed) was that those cars looked cooler than modern R5s because they looked way more loose on the tracks. personal taste, probably.
    I agree and have said before that the 2011-2016 WRCars were still great to watch.

    Despite the next 2017-2021 cars having all the 'looks' with the extra aero, this actually made them too pressed to the ground and less dramatic (though faster).

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    Hyundai targets making the i20 Rally2 a top tarmac car in 2025 using several jokers:

    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/hyund...-a-tarmac-car/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Hyundai targets making the i20 Rally2 a top tarmac car in 2025 using several jokers:

    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/hyund...-a-tarmac-car/
    Might get to see a few in Ireland - if they get it right!

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