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    3 years on Rally 2s as they are now. No additional costs, no kits, nothing. As they are now. Use 2025 to work out new regs from 2028 onwards. Simple. But, no, Hyundai will cry and Ford may be displeased with Ben Sulayem. It's 100% political.

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    I can't see Ford being more involved than they are now. The GT3 Mustang seems to be more of a priority.....and even has full Ford branding on the WEC coverage....

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    Without a WRC round in the USA Ford wont change their position. Its not like they have tested the water and backed a car in their own domestic championships. Mustang is one of their mainstay models in the home and Australian markets.

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    [QUOTE=WRCStan;1346779

    Or, they could yes, but it's an idealist's view of WRC being a fair and inviting sport championship. If you expect that any of what you put is ever a serious target, you and I have opposing views of how the world turns.[/QUOTE]

    I was just saying it was the possible way to have more cars and more competition at the top level in an ideal world and if it had been planned well in advance.

    Sadly it wasnt and now they stuck with just 8 cars and the same faces on every rally for another 2 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    I was just saying it was the possible way to have more cars and more competition at the top level in an ideal world and if it had been planned well in advance.

    Sadly it wasnt and now they stuck with just 8 cars and the same faces on every rally for another 2 years.
    8 cars if they're lucky. I'll be surprised if Hyundai and Ford are both involved in the top class in 2026 personally.

    And also puts a premium on the current drivers who are familiar with the Rally1 cars, puts another lock on the gate of up-and-comers.
    aka Rodger Davies

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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge33cymru View Post
    8 cars if they're lucky. I'll be surprised if Hyundai and Ford are both involved in the top class in 2026 personally.

    And also puts a premium on the current drivers who are familiar with the Rally1 cars, puts another lock on the gate of up-and-comers.
    A ban on part-time drivers scoring championship points would put a stop to this sharpish....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rallyfiend View Post
    A ban on part-time drivers scoring championship points would put a stop to this sharpish....
    Imagine if Ogier wins this years championship on part time program. What a story. He has already multiple crowns with three different manufacturers over Loeb. That could also help the whole picture and promotion to reach more and more people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Rally2 could've been made the top class from 2025 without pissing off the current Manufacturers who all already have these machines.

    Skoda and Citroen (Stellantis) could've then come in as factory teams.

    The WRC2 Rally2 Regs could've been tweaked for a bit more power and aero.

    Privateers could've bought them off the Teams and competed on an equal level.
    I won't beat the dead horse again by repeating over and over again the same reasons why all you wrote is wrong. Come on. It's been explained so many times that it hurts.

    Quote Originally Posted by saco0o View Post
    imo its really simple: "rally2".
    Same answer. Guys, why are you so ignorrant? Literally nobody in charge wants Rally2 as the top class. That idea is dead and burried for good.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Lower class as the top category is a no go. And everyone still loves to look greener than they are, tho it seems manufacturers EV ambitions are being scaled back a bit.

    If to still look towards the hybrid solution, then why not to go for range extender/generator route with the engine only as the power plant supplying electricity of the electric motors? You'd get the brutal torque of EVs and could still go through the service park silently.

    Of course it would leave the issue I have with most modern rally cars, they are missing the 'wow' of sound. A very loud speaker imitating engine sound based on throttle input?
    Never stop dreaming because one day it might happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Same answer. Guys, why are you so ignorrant? Literally nobody in charge wants Rally2 as the top class. That idea is dead and burried for good.
    same answer too: fine, then lets have 2 more years with only 6 full time cars in the "pinneacle of off road motorsport".
    where 2 of these 6 are there only because that team gets money from the drivers ("pay-driver") and the promoter of the championship (redbull), otherwise they wouldnt (probably?).

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