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  1. #1141
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    This fiasco is 100% on Ben Sulayem. He just chose to bend the knee to Hyundai and possibly gain some much needed support from Ford in order to let WRC erode away slowly while focusing on fighting FOM and Liberty for the cash cow called F1. Disappointing from a FIA president that prides himself as a rallyman...

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    What else exactly do you guys want?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WRCStan View Post
    What else exactly do you guys want?
    No Hybrid no EV.

    Racing and Rallying is there for excitement. Enjoyment for the spectators. EV or Hybrid does not belong in Racing and Rallying!

    EV sales are already very bad. Lots of People don’t want it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdvEvo View Post
    No Hybrid no EV.

    Racing and Rallying is there for excitement. Enjoyment for the spectators. EV or Hybrid does not belong in Racing and Rallying!

    EV sales are already very bad. Lots of People don’t want it.
    So what exactly do you want? Didn't ask what you don't want.

    Although the question was more aimed at the guys with this 'manufacturers are holding the FIA hostage' mentality. I'd like that situation explaining to me please, and how it should be improved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WRCStan View Post
    What else exactly do you guys want?
    to understand how they went from "we have a problem in wrc, lets fix it" to "the obvious solution is to literally keep the problem the way it was".

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    They don't know what to do. So, let's allow the time pass and maybe a miracle happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saco0o View Post
    to understand how they went from "we have a problem in wrc, lets fix it" to "the obvious solution is to literally keep the problem the way it was".
    It feels like this discussion is repeated a lot but you understand that sudden, chaotic changes that don't give manus sense that WRC has clear, trustworthy long-term vision is also a big problem?

    WRC needs to make decisions for 2027 early, not leaving it until last minute. In 2025-2026 they can work on a lot of things regarding accessability for fans so those years don't need to be completely lost anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WRCStan View Post
    What else exactly do you guys want?
    People wanted the FIA to address the low number of cars (Teams) in the top class, the crazy cost of a Rally1 Hybrid and the inability for upcoming drivers and event locals to access or compete with them.

    Ideas and proposals were suggested but the current Teams had them over a barrell and were able to threaten to leave unless the status quo was maintained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    People wanted the FIA to address the low number of cars (Teams) in the top class, the crazy cost of a Rally1 Hybrid and the inability for upcoming drivers and event locals to access or compete with them.

    Ideas and proposals were suggested but the current Teams had them over a barrell and were able to threaten to leave unless the status quo was maintained.
    But to make those changes would have cost everyone a lot of money and thus reduce their ability to enter more cars....

    It lacked strategy. It was rushed and done without consultation. It was doomed for failure because all 'proposals' were shown to be complete rubbish...

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    rally2, man.
    "oh but it will ruin the national championships", one may say.
    but its not like toyota would give ogier a factory car to compete at the french championship (hehe) and there are rules in rally2 competition when it comes to upgrades, for example. they wouldnt go crazy expensive like some think. of course factory teams cars would be stronger, but stuff like crashes and road position would totally allow other competitors to fight for the top positions, eventually. its not like erc or national championships are boring, right?
    not only that, rally2s are already super expensive right now. i wouldnt find weird if rally3 (with toyota and lancia entering the game) were to become the top class in some countries rally championship in the next years.
    idk. fia missed an opportunity here imo. rally2s are "not that fast'' but competition would be more fun to watch.
    i mean, thats my view. im a big erc fan. wouldnt mind having 'that' as the top class.

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