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[typhoon]

you have 30min highlights from each day on redbull.tv absolutly free

The visibility of Red Bull TV is nothing even closely comparable to the reach you can get on YT. They would have a lot more views on YouTube and get some proper money from ads as well. I really can't understand it...

[seb_sh]

some thoughts:
- Mike Chen really elevates the commentary, he is more assertive and informative and doesn't constantly get confused like PK for example, also they seem to take more breaks to allow the co-driver to be heard. Becsy seems to be pulled up or down by her co-commentator so it's crucial who she is paired with. They just need a driver with recent at least Rally2 experience for some actual expertise. Someone like Greensmith for example would be fine.
- I liked the picture in picture showing stage preparation or stuff that happenes like Solberg fixing his wheel, it's a great way to show the atmosphere of rallying. I would prefer if this channel is muted since the wheel gun for example when showing Oliver changing the wheel was distracting
- I like that they copied Dirtfish to show things between the stages. The pre-day interviews that Coling Clark does are one of my favourite moments. Unfortunately Julian Porter is not the best for this as he does not have the charisma and rapport that Colin Clark has with the drivers. Also it seems they didn't choose the right moment as the crews were busy and nobody talked to them. Good idea bad execution.
- I liked that for 2 stages they stayed long and showed even the little guys. It was good for them and also nice to show the reality of rallying and also to have a comparison to how those guys were driving and the top guys.
- The app and website are still unacceptable: randomly getting logged off, can not open links in a new tab by right clicking, also I suspect the way the site is made is terrible for accesibility for people using screen readers for example, the mobile app randomly decides not to work or desync sound - I watched mostly on PC. In general it's still worse than the old app/website and costs more. I am glad I decided to only take a month sub and I think that between the calendar and my own travelling this year I only need 3 or 4 single month subs.

What I would personally expect so that 120 euros per year is worth it:
- an expert commentator like I said above, with recent high level experience
- an app and website that works normally
- as a minimum I would expect to be able to select on board feed from at least 6 Rally1 cars besides the TV feed. This is maybe a nice to have but all other online motorsport streaming services give you this option - the plane is there and the individual feeds get to the TV van anyway, it can't be that hard to add more streams (if you know what you're doing and have the hardware). As a bonus it would be awesome to have the helicopter channel as well and it would be something unique.
- "ambient" sound channel (no commentary) - also nice to have but surely it's trivial to add...

I believe these are not exagerated considering what is available for other series.

[wyler]

The visibility of Red Bull TV is nothing even closely comparable to the reach you can get on YT. They would have a lot more views on YouTube and get some proper money from ads as well. I really can't understand it...

there's this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUhoMj3DVb4&t=113s

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I am still turning down sound to not having to listen to Becks and whoever of the brits commentating with her.
As long as there is no expert with WRC2 or higher driving experience. For me, the native speakers provides a lot of useless bla bla, we deserve more than that!

Me too ! And new-boy Mike Chen is as annoying as all the rest.

[the sniper]

The visibility of Red Bull TV is nothing even closely comparable to the reach you can get on YT. They would have a lot more views on YouTube and get some proper money from ads as well. I really can't understand it...

I don't think they want to give the impression that they're giving them away for free, whereas as with Red Bull TV they can pretend they have sold the rights on some kind of commercial basis, even if in reality it's just an internal transfer of money within Red Bull. It's probably more palatable to the likes of BT Sport who have been sold a domestic rights package, inclusive of those highlights shows.

[AndyRAC]

The visibility of Red Bull TV is nothing even closely comparable to the reach you can get on YT. They would have a lot more views on YouTube and get some proper money from ads as well. I really can't understand it...

Which is why the UCI went with Discovery/Eurosport for the MTB World Cup; RBTV isn't going to bring in massive numbers of viewers........only those who already know about the sport.

[the sniper]

Another issue with You Tube is that it rather publicly highlights how many people, or rather how few, may actually be watching your program...

[Myrvold]

some thoughts:
What I would personally expect so that 120 euros per year is worth it:
- as a minimum I would expect to be able to select on board feed from at least 6 Rally1 cars besides the TV feed. This is maybe a nice to have but all other online motorsport streaming services give you this option - the plane is there and the individual feeds get to the TV van anyway, it can't be that hard to add more streams (if you know what you're doing and have the hardware). As a bonus it would be awesome to have the helicopter channel as well and it would be something unique.

I believe these are not exagerated considering what is available for other series.

That will cost a lot more than 120EUR a year... These things are so much simpler on a small circuit.

[seb_sh]

That will cost a lot more than 120EUR a year... These things are so much simpler on a small circuit.

I don't think so. The plane is circling overhead receiving from all on boards and relays them to the tv truck where the director can mix them as they want. It's already there they just need to set up extra streams. Is there something I'm missing?

[ictus]

I am still turning down sound to not having to listen to Becks and whoever of the brits commentating with her.
As long as there is no expert with WRC2 or higher driving experience. For me, the native speakers provides a lot of useless bla bla, we deserve more than that!

"we" as in "internet forum nerds" who know more about the sport than 99,99% of the people capable of deacent commenting.
For the majority of viewers it's more than enough