Rally Discussion and Bar Talk Thread

**240RS** · 1st December 2023, 11:08

Nicky Grist and Juha Kankkunen put together a rather interesting chat recently.

Quite revealing to hear them say they were shocked to pull away from Colin McRae at a Super Special with ease.

https://youtu.be/hQJ5Hsz6AAI?si=kcgFiYY5XBsbFo_A

**seb_sh** · 1st December 2023, 17:42

Originally Posted by 240RS

Nicky Grist and Juha Kankkunen put together a rather interesting chat recently.

Quite revealing to hear them say they were shocked to pull away from Colin McRae at a Super Special with ease.

https://youtu.be/hQJ5Hsz6AAI?si=kcgFiYY5XBsbFo_A

enjoyed watching that, thanks!

**Eli** · 1st December 2023, 19:46

I was wondering, watching the highlights of both the 2007 & 2009 editions of Rally Ireland, why did it fail? how come we never saw it again on the calendar and is there any chance Bobby Willis will succeed in bringing it back in one way or another to the calendar? It looks like it could be a unique tarmac event imho.

**Tauri_J** · 3rd December 2023, 06:38

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5IC...atteoRaggi-VBB

**NaBUru38** · 7th December 2023, 17:41

The president of Paraguay received WRC representatives to host a 2025 race in Encarnación, Itapúa Department.

https://www.motorpy.com/revive-el-su...rc-a-paraguay/

**EstWRC** · 8th December 2023, 07:29

Abiteboul said: “What I regret is that we don’t have the structure of discussion to talk these things through, and being able to share and express opinions, and being able to form a consensus.

“We don’t have that [in WRC], but in Formula 1 we do have that. We’ve got lots of opportunities to talk to the FIA, the promoter. We may agree, disagree, and get to some sort of conclusion. We try things out, sometimes they succeed, sometimes they fail. But at least it’s a moving thing.

The Hyundai team principal reflected on the specific situation from that day in Japan as the perfect proof of his point.

“We want to see beautiful cars in extreme conditions,” he said. “But we would like to [actually] see them. Because frankly this morning (Friday) there was not much to see, the [live video] coverage was not excellent, there were not that many cameras around the road. I think that was poor.

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/the-f...pling-the-wrc/

**bomber21** · 8th December 2023, 08:38

We want to see the cars also from close not only in the TV….

I am saying this because in the last rallies I watched from close, spectator places were 30+ meters away from the cars and I almost needed binoculars to see…

This ruined my experience and made me not want to go abroad to see WRC anymore.

**AndyRAC** · 8th December 2023, 08:57

Originally Posted by EstWRC

Abiteboul said: “What I regret is that we don’t have the structure of discussion to talk these things through, and being able to share and express opinions, and being able to form a consensus.

“We don’t have that [in WRC], but in Formula 1 we do have that. We’ve got lots of opportunities to talk to the FIA, the promoter. We may agree, disagree, and get to some sort of conclusion. We try things out, sometimes they succeed, sometimes they fail. But at least it’s a moving thing.

The Hyundai team principal reflected on the specific situation from that day in Japan as the perfect proof of his point.

“We want to see beautiful cars in extreme conditions,” he said. “But we would like to [actually] see them. Because frankly this morning (Friday) there was not much to see, the [live video] coverage was not excellent, there were not that many cameras around the road. I think that was poor.

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/the-f...pling-the-wrc/

F1 is NOT the series to take ideas from - we've already done that - and it didn't work. MotoGP seems to copy F1, and not for the better......

**NaBUru38** · 11th December 2023, 14:12

I'm not too wel informed, but did the zero and double zero cars have no issues on that stage?

Originally Posted by EstWRC

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/the-f...pling-the-wrc/

"So, the last rally of the year was decided and determined at 8.30 on Friday morning, on the other end of the world?"

Well, it's this end of the world for Toyota and Hyundai...

**Mirek** · 11th December 2023, 14:59

Originally Posted by AndyRAC

F1 is NOT the series to take ideas from - we've already done that - and it didn't work. MotoGP seems to copy F1, and not for the better......

He was calling for a common regular forum where the teams, the promotor, the organizers and the FIA can discuss important matters. He didn't mention anything else from F1. You shall read the text instead of immediately refuse it just because you saw someone mentioning an F1.