[WRC] Rally Estonia 2023

**Eli** · 21st July 2023, 07:17

Originally Posted by Corcaíoch

Disaster for Lappi, 40s is huge here! Can't seem to catch a break lately

Where did you see it’s 40 seconds?

**jonkka** · 21st July 2023, 07:18

Originally Posted by Eli

Where did you see it’s 40 seconds?

If Lappi started stage 4 minutes late, as is reported, that's what it incurs.

**Eli** · 21st July 2023, 07:19

Originally Posted by jonkka

If Lappi started stage 4 minutes late, as is reported, that's what it incurs.

Wasn’t aware it was 4 minutes.

**jonkka** · 21st July 2023, 07:20

Originally Posted by Eli

Wasn’t aware it was 4 minutes.

Says so on WRC.com live updates. Penalty itself hasn't been registered yet, maybe there is some confusion about it.

**er88** · 21st July 2023, 07:22

Some confusion here over Lappi

**Corcaíoch** · 21st July 2023, 07:23

Originally Posted by Eli

Where did you see it’s 40 seconds?

Ewrc were showing a 40s penalty but it's gone again since, hopefully not!

**Rallyper** · 21st July 2023, 07:28

Originally Posted by ouvreur

The guy - a world champion - has an insurmountable penalty before even starting his home rally, and you expect him to be all smiles and 'I will just have some fun' at stage end interviews? Seriously?

I'd rather see him as he is, being honest, than giving the standard rally driver bullshit at stage ends.

It´s not bullshit being positive. A true sportsman leave yeswterday and goes on. I know he´s a special personality, but it doesn´t excuse him for not being able to tell positive things. For example after stage wins.

When should he start being positive you mean? Never?

**ouvreur** · 21st July 2023, 07:46

Originally Posted by Rallyper

It´s not bullshit being positive. A true sportsman leave yeswterday and goes on. I know he´s a special personality, but it doesn´t excuse him for not being able to tell positive things. For example after stage wins.

When should he start being positive you mean? Never?

I'm sure it would be easier to 'leave yesterday behind' if what happened yesterday hadn't completely f*cked today, tomorrow and Sunday for him.

Let's be clear - yes, driving rally cars is fun. Yes, he's in a privileged position that others would kill for, blah blah blah. But ultimately, his job - his life's work - is fighting for world championships, and thanks to something outside of his control that happened 24 hours ago, that job is completely screwed this weekend (on his home rally, in a country where he's probably the highest-profile athlete they've ever had) and likely now the rest of the year, and you want him to start being positive?

I don't mean to be rude, but I don't think you understand how people operating at his level work. What's he got to be positive about? "Yeah, I'm winning stages, 6th overall here I come!!!"?

**Rallyper** · 21st July 2023, 08:01

Originally Posted by ouvreur

I'm sure it would be easier to 'leave yesterday behind' if what happened yesterday hadn't completely f*cked today, tomorrow and Sunday for him.

Let's be clear - yes, driving rally cars is fun. Yes, he's in a privileged position that others would kill for, blah blah blah. But ultimately, his job - his life's work - is fighting for world championships, and thanks to something outside of his control that happened 24 hours ago, that job is completely screwed this weekend (on his home rally, in a country where he's probably the highest-profile athlete they've ever had) and likely now the rest of the year, and you want him to start being positive?

I don't mean to be rude, but I don't think you understand how people operating at his level work. What's he got to be positive about? "Yeah, I'm winning stages, 6th overall here I come!!!"?

Obviously you and I also are persons on a different average mode. I can easily leave things behind, and as you mentioned he has so much to be happy for. An engine failure one day, crash another. Should he have that in mind all the time? Is that what you learn from shrinks?
Sportsmen often need them, but I think Ott need it more.