[WRC] Safari Rally Kenya 2023 (22-25 June 2023)

[focus206]

lol, Colin Clark's naivety is almost bigger than Hyundai's, he actually believes Hyundai wasn't the one hiring the reconnaissance dude?
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/colin...river-ratings/

"I’m absolutely shocked at the stupidity of Thierry Neuville’s actions here in Kenya.

Illegal recceing is, and always has been, one of the most serious offences in rallying. So much so that we’ve seen drivers banned for fairly lengthly periods in the past for cheating in this way.

It’s beyond belief that a team of Hyundai’s experience should allow this to happen.

What was already a very difficult weekend for the team has, overnight, become catastrophic.

There are still many unanswered questions around this incident that may or may not mitigate Neuville’s actions.

I for one though just feel enormous disappointment that one of our biggest stars should be caught doing something he so obviously shouldn’t have been doing."

[denkimi]

There used to be times when delecour was praised because he knew people living in the mountains around monte carlo who would tell him if it was snowing or not.

It is of course common practice, everywhere by everyone. But that doesn't make it legal. If you get caught, you should get punished.

[ictus]

"The people connected to Neuville were stopped by event officials on a private estate in Kenya"
If they were cought by the officials, why wait till after the rally do DSQ them?

[becher]

lol, Colin Clark's naivety is almost bigger than Hyundai's, he actually believes Hyundai wasn't the one hiring the reconnaissance dude?
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/colin...river-ratings/

"I’m absolutely shocked at the stupidity of Thierry Neuville’s actions here in Kenya.

Illegal recceing is, and always has been, one of the most serious offences in rallying. So much so that we’ve seen drivers banned for fairly lengthly periods in the past for cheating in this way.

It’s beyond belief that a team of Hyundai’s experience should allow this to happen.

What was already a very difficult weekend for the team has, overnight, become catastrophic.

There are still many unanswered questions around this incident that may or may not mitigate Neuville’s actions.

I for one though just feel enormous disappointment that one of our biggest stars should be caught doing something he so obviously shouldn’t have been doing."

Clark is quite silly sometimes. On the podcast he showed that he can listen and reign it in a bit, but in writing he lacks someone to bounce of and come to his .

[Fast Eddie WRC]

lol, Colin Clark's naivety is almost bigger than Hyundai's, he actually believes Hyundai wasn't the one hiring the reconnaissance dude?
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/colin...river-ratings/

"I’m absolutely shocked at the stupidity of Thierry Neuville’s actions here in Kenya.

Illegal recceing is, and always has been, one of the most serious offences in rallying. So much so that we’ve seen drivers banned for fairly lengthly periods in the past for cheating in this way.

It’s beyond belief that a team of Hyundai’s experience should allow this to happen.

What was already a very difficult weekend for the team has, overnight, become catastrophic.

There are still many unanswered questions around this incident that may or may not mitigate Neuville’s actions.

I for one though just feel enormous disappointment that one of our biggest stars should be caught doing something he so obviously shouldn’t have been doing."

If it was the Hyundai team doing the hiring of the illegal recce people, why would this just be for the benefit of Neuville & Wydaeghe ? Wouldnt the info also be passed to Lappi and Sordo ?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Autosport:

Neuville’s co-driver Martijn Wydaeghe claimed in the stewards report that a person was sent to the stage to understand the “ambiguity to what constitutes corner-cutting and the anti-cutting measures that the organiser was perceived to have introduced following reconnaissance.”

Neuville took full responsibility and apologised for his lapse in judgement

[ouvreur]

lol, Colin Clark's naivety is almost bigger than Hyundai's, he actually believes Hyundai wasn't the one hiring the reconnaissance dude?
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/colin...river-ratings/

"I’m absolutely shocked at the stupidity of Thierry Neuville’s actions here in Kenya.

Illegal recceing is, and always has been, one of the most serious offences in rallying. So much so that we’ve seen drivers banned for fairly lengthly periods in the past for cheating in this way.

It’s beyond belief that a team of Hyundai’s experience should allow this to happen.

What was already a very difficult weekend for the team has, overnight, become catastrophic.

There are still many unanswered questions around this incident that may or may not mitigate Neuville’s actions.

I for one though just feel enormous disappointment that one of our biggest stars should be caught doing something he so obviously shouldn’t have been doing."

It's almost like he thinks it was Thierry himself with a bad-fitting wig and fake moustache who was caught driving the stages...

Colin Clark is a clown.

[focus206]

If it was the Hyundai team doing the hiring of the illegal recce people, why would this just be for the benefit of Neuville & Wydaeghe ? Wouldnt the info also be passed to Lappi and Sordo ?

Could be that Hyundai used this guy only for their main driver, could be that Hyundai used other guys for Lappi and Sordo who haven't been caught, could be that the info gathered by the caught guy was passed to Lappi and Sordo as well but they weren't thrown under the bus (most probable).
Otherwise, how do you explain this? Neuville brings someone from Belgium to do illegal recce in Kenya? Neuville hires some shady people on the streets with his personal money, while hiding it from the team? Come on, that's sci-fi.

[Eli]

Doesn’t seem to be widely reported but there was demonstrations against the rally in Naivasha this morning, complaining that promised jobs for the rally haven’t happened.
Police with teargas shifted them on.
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Still a lot of speculation that this will be the final WRC Safari.

Now the rally is over, is there still a lot of speculation the WRC won't be coming back to Kenya in 2024?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Could be that Hyundai used this guy only for their main driver, could be that Hyundai used other guys for Lappi and Sordo who haven't been caught, could be that the info gathered by the caught guy was passed to Lappi and Sordo as well but they weren't thrown under the bus (most probable).
Otherwise, how do you explain this? Neuville brings someone from Belgium to do illegal recce in Kenya? Neuville hires some shady people on the streets with his personal money, while hiding it from the team? Come on, that's sci-fi.

Why would Hyundai throw their top driver under the bus and not one of their others if that was possible ?

Its clear the recce was done for the benefit of Neuville either instigated by himself or the team, thars why only he is blamed. And I dont see Neuville apologising if it was organised by the team.