[WRC] Croatia Rally 2023

**EstWRC** · 27th April 2023, 04:57

Zeroundersteer vid

https://youtu.be/nieb-bGcDhk

**meh** · 27th April 2023, 05:38

Originally Posted by the sniper

I highly doubt their claims would stand up legally in many countries where the footage was taken in a public place (definitions of a such will vary by country), at least. They've just copied this from sports that take place in/on private venues and have truly controlled access. I think they're pushing their luck as it is, I doubt they'll go much further with their claiming of footage beyond attempts to erase some of the more ugly incidents from the most public platforms. Not that I agree with their dubious attempts here to control the image of the sport. If there were to be graphic footage of a fatality at a WRC event floating about though, I would be more understanding of their efforts.

I don't remember anymore from where I read it, but the point was - all the footage from WRC event belongs to promoter.

**EstWRC** · 27th April 2023, 05:54

that what they say but i agree with user The Sniper, im also sure it isnt that black and white

**macebig** · 27th April 2023, 11:25

Different story from Dirtfish regarding the much discussed incident with spectators. They claim that their sentence was in fact a week in jail, instead of the 700€ fine Croatian media published.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/why-t...s-were-jailed/

**Kras** · 27th April 2023, 12:16

Originally Posted by macebig

Different story from Dirtfish regarding the much discussed incident with spectators. They claim that their sentence was in fact a week in jail, instead of the 700€ fine Croatian media published.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/why-t...s-were-jailed/

It was 700€, or a week in jail. Most sentences for minor offences are given that way

**SubaruNorway** · 27th April 2023, 15:37

Originally Posted by meh

I don't remember anymore from where I read it, but the point was - all the footage from WRC event belongs to promoter.

It kind of is, they can take it and use it if they want to without asking, which has happened before, but usually you get paid with a free year of WRC+ if you get something really good and send it in. Red Bull Media claimed lots of video's by a mistake some years ago but we got them back within some days. The free promotion and extra eyes out there is very valuable for the WRC, i think they understand that, on a track it's a bit different.

**denkimi** · 28th April 2023, 03:04

Originally Posted by meh

I don't remember anymore from where I read it, but the point was - all the footage from WRC event belongs to promoter.

They can try and claim that, but that doesn't make it legally true.

If you have bought a ticket to get to view the cars they might have some basis, although dubious. But they can not put any legal claim onto someone who has not done so, as they have no contract with them whatsoever.
This is not a closed circuit, these are public roads, there are people living there. If they want to claim all video material they will have to make sure nobody without a ticket is able to film anything.

**240RS** · 28th April 2023, 08:21

Originally Posted by denkimi

They can try and claim that, but that doesn't make it legally true.

If you have bought a ticket to get to view the cars they might have some basis, although dubious. But they can not put any legal claim onto someone who has not done so, as they have no contract with them whatsoever.
This is not a closed circuit, these are public roads, there are people living there. If they want to claim all video material they will have to make sure nobody without a ticket is able to film anything.

Legally, not a chance would they win a case in any court.

Footage taken and beamed by the host broadcaster is their property. Likewise, footage generated by any fan or professional is their own as well. Beaming to an audience, via whatever media, remains the prerogative of the owner of the footage. The FIA and the officially contracted rights holder wield the stick on event organisers as well as non-factory competitors to ensure they maintain some public beaming exclusivity. This has in the past hampered event organisers and local, non-factory drivers from generating much needed content for their own publicity.