WRC2 news & rumors 2023

[AnttiL]

I also think it's a bit stupid...

[focus206]

I also think it's a bit stupid...

Yes. Also not the only time I've seen something like that... sometimes a driver is called (or calls himself) let's say "2012 national champion". Then you go see the results, and he was 2WD national champion or Group N national champion etc.
They're not really lying, but they omit an important detail.

[Jarek Z]

Yes. Also not the only time I've seen something like that... sometimes a driver is called (or calls himself) let's say "2012 national champion". Then you go see the results, and he was 2WD national champion or Group N national champion etc.
They're not really lying, but they omit an important detail.

That's true. I saw it countless times. I even think that some drivers and their PR workers are champions at that

[ictus]

Yes. Also not the only time I've seen something like that... sometimes a driver is called (or calls himself) let's say "2012 national champion". Then you go see the results, and he was 2WD national champion or Group N national champion etc.
They're not really lying, but they omit an important detail.

I presume that you've never won anything and just want to make youself feel better... Winning is winning!!! If you are the best in your category, be it drive, displacement or age, you are the winner of that category, so it's fair to say you WON! It's a big thing and it's something to brag about

[ouvreur]

I presume that you've never won anything and just want to make youself feel better... Winning is winning!!! If you are the best in your category, be it drive, displacement or age, you are the winner of that category, so it's fair to say you WON! It's a big thing and it's something to brag about

No, I'm sorry... there's a difference between, say, finishing first in the RC2 class in Rally Mexico, and winning Rally Mexico. Granted, Gus won the competition he had targeted to win, but under no normal definition of the term 'to win a rally' did he win the rally.

There was only one rally to win, and that was done by Ogier and Landais. Anyone else claiming to have done so is only fooling themselves.

[AnttiL]

Exactly, it's not about us being jealous or disliking certain drivers, it's just simply factually wrong.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So a WRC2 Winner cant call himself a rally winner. This backs up my point that the different categories shouldn't be mixed up with some being scored by their Class and others by their overall place.

[focus206]

I presume that you've never won anything and just want to make youself feel better... Winning is winning!!! If you are the best in your category, be it drive, displacement or age, you are the winner of that category, so it's fair to say you WON! It's a big thing and it's something to brag about

What a silly comment. Of course you're allowed to brag about your victories, but it's just misleading to say you're the national champion WITHOUT specifying the category, because by "national champion" it's assumed "national overall champion".
Sebastien Loeb doesn't call himself 10 times world rally champion. Yet he won 9 world rally championships + 1 JWRC title in 2001.
Sebastien Ogier doesn't call himself 9 times world rally champion. Yet he won 8 world rally championships + 1 JWRC title in 2008.
Saying "I won the 2022 Rally4 national rally championship" is NOT the same as "I won the 2022 national rally championship".

[ToKu]

Yet, Dakar Rally has 3 or even 4 winners each year.

[focus206]

Yet, Dakar Rally has 3 or even 4 winners each year.

Obviously, because there are multiple types of vehicles - cars, bikes, quads, SxS, trucks.
Among cars, there are multiple categories.
Daniel Schroder finished in 52nd this year and won the T1.1 category.
Ronald Basso finished in 107th this year and won the T2 category.
Can you call them Dakar winners? Sure, in their own category.