Hyundai WRT

[skarderud]

Add Paddon into the mix too.

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[er88]

If Hyundai offer Lappi a full season he would surely take it? Probably the best option for them.

Then Sordo can share with Mikkelsen or Suninen. Question is, what driver is best suited to the events like Sweden, Estonia, Finland etc that Sordo won't do. (the actual best driver for that would be Breen, and a Breen/Sordo share has worked). If Tanak goes to Msport, Breen could be kicked and might have to settle for a part time Hyundai gig.

[flat_right]

An interview with Moncet who which gives us more details about Tänak's departure (I'm quoting Estonian site which is quoting some French news site)

https://sport.delfi.ee/artikkel/1200...kumise-pohjusi

*Tänak let Hyundai know before the RACC
*Tänak weighed his decision for a very long time
*Tänak was very resolute and there was no chance changing his mind. Didn't give any concrete reasons and said the same thing that he is at a stage of his career where he needs to embark on a new challenge.
*Tänak wasn't easy to work with but he was very demanding and detail oriented, wanted to understand everything.
*Doesn't know what will Ott do and Hyundai's driver options depend on what he will do next (if he doesn't retire)
*At the moment Moncet rules out that they will continue with only one driver who is doing a full season.

[mknight]

, what driver is best suited to the events like Sweden, Estonia, Finland etc that Sordo won't do. (the actual best driver for that would be Breen, and a Breen/Sordo share has worked)

This season has clearly shown Breen is best driver for those events ....oh wait.

Anyway, sometimes it is rather amazing how recent vs past results get weighted to the extreme.

Recently we see Sordo winning one stage by good margin in Spain and we get people saying it shows he should drive full season. On the other end of spectra people start pulling up Meeke who hasn't driven anything for years and even managed to crash on those very few starts he had.

Some reasonable balance should be maintained.

Breen was clearly best choice a year ago, right now it is not a clear pick and no guarantee of good results.

[Danny0405]

*Doesn't know what will Ott do and Hyundai's driver options depend on what he will do next (if he doesn't retire)

Message pretty clear: they are waiting to see if Toyota hires him which would mean Lappi or Evans should be available.

*At the moment Moncet rules out that they will continue with only one driver who is doing a full season.

Not a good option in my opinion: yeah, to attract Lappi or Evans, they will probably need to give a full season job.
But if Toyota remains like this, I don’t think any other driver on the market can perform on full-time seat; road position is probably the best they can play with only Neuville being full-time.

[er88]

This season has clearly shown Breen is best driver for those events ....oh wait.

Anyway, sometimes it is rather amazing how recent vs past results get weighted to the extreme.

Recently we see Sordo winning one stage by good margin in Spain and we get people saying it shows he should drive full season. On the other end of spectra people start pulling up Meeke who hasn't driven anything for years and even managed to crash on those very few starts he had.

Some reasonable balance should be maintained.

Breen was clearly best choice a year ago, right now it is not a clear pick and no guarantee of good results.

Give over....

Breen has the best recent results & pace on those sort of events. A poor season this year doesn't change that. He's also got the most recent (& good) experience of sharing a wrc car with Sordo and doing well with a part time season.

Unless you want to argue Mikkelsen, Suninen, Paddon, Meeke, Ostberg etc would be a better fit to share a car with Sordo?

It's probably a moot point anyway if Breen is kept on at Msport.

[AnttiL]

We can look at Breen, Lappi, Suninen and Mikkelsen from the past four years but their programs and cars have varied a lot. The results in the Fiesta WRC weren't comparable, and partially some drivers have been in WRC2.

2019
Sweden
1. Tänak
2. Lappi
3. Neuville
4. Mikkelsen
DNF Suninen (crashed)
DNS Breen

Chile
1. Tänak
2. Ogier
3. Loeb
5. Suninen (Fiesta)
6. Lappi
7. Mikkelsen
DNS Breen

Finland
1. Tänak
2. Lappi
3. Latvala
4. Mikkelsen
7. Breen (let Neuville past, would have been 6th)
8. Suninen (Fiesta)

Wales
1. Tänak
2. Neuville
3. Ogier
6. Mikkelsen
8. Breen (rolled)
27. Lappi (crashed, super rally)
DNF Suninen

2020
Sweden
1. Evans
2. Tänak
3. Rovanperä
5. Lappi (Fiesta)
7. Breen
8. Suninen (Fiesta)
DNS Mikkelsen

Estonia
1. Tänak
2. Breen
3. Ogier
6. Suninen (Fiesta)
7. Lappi (Fiesta)
DNS Mikkelsen

2021
Arctic
1. Tänak
2. Rovanperä
3. Neuville
4. Breen
8. Suninen (Fiesta)
RC2 1. Lappi
RC2 2. Mikkelsen

Estonia
1. Rovanperä
2. Breen
3. Neuville
6. Suninen
RC2 2. Mikkelsen
DNS Lappi

Finland
1. Evans
2. Tänak
3. Breen
4. Lappi (with heavier and underpowered car)
RC2 1. Suninen
DNS Mikkelsen

2022
Sweden
1. Rovanperä
2. Neuville
3. Lappi
RC2 1. Mikkelsen
36. Breen (crashed, super rally)
DNS Mikkelsen
DNS Suninen

Estonia
1. Rovanperä
2. Evans
3. Tänak
6. Lappi (puncture)
RC2 1. Mikkelsen
RC2 2. Suninen
30. Breen (crashed, super rally)

Finland
1. Tänak
2. Rovanperä
3. Lappi
32. Breen (crashed, super rally)
DSQ Suninen (would have won RC2 but bumper too light)
DNS Mikkelsen

Also we notice that Neuville has taken several podiums in these events.

Mikkelsen and Suninen have no podiums in these events, but then again they have good results in WRC2 from the very recent years.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

TBH I dont think it's worth discussing until we find out what Tanak is going to do in 2023.

If he goes to Toyota then it doesnt matter who Hyundai get they wont be able to compete.

[Loikam]

Antti, you have small typo - 2020 Sweden podium was: Evans, Tänak, Rovanperä

[skarderud]

TBH I dont think it's worth discussing until we find out what Tanak is going to do in 2023.

If he goes to Toyota then it doesnt matter who Hyundai get they wont be able to compete.

Some rumours subaru going to present something at Rally Japan, can this be Tänaks new project? One year of to test a new car? And Märtin as a teamboss?

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