Wrc+

[Eli]

True but their level of professionalism is sub par to say the least & I don't know why, for a third season now they stopped mixing their commentators on their highlights.

[the sniper]

Re Becs Williams... it is a bit weird that this Male-dominated sport (competitor-wise) has had a female main commentator all this time (and one who has zero experience of driving or co-driving). Other sports dont even do this now, even in this 2022 woke, PC, maximum equality era.

Leaving aside the gender stuff, as I'm not sure what your point is, how often does any main commentator in any sport have much experience of competing in the sport concerned? I'd say it isn't the norm at all. Look at English language Formula 1 coverage for example, David Croft doesn't, James Allen didn't, Jonathan Legard didn't. Murray Walker did a bit on bikes in the 1940s... Only Ben Edwards did some lower formula circuit racing.

The main failing of WRC+ is is in the co-commentary position, there are so many ex-competitor's that could do well in that role, but they're seemingly too cheap to fill that position properly.

[Eli]

Leaving aside the gender stuff, as I'm not sure what your point is, how often does any main commentator in any sport have much experience of competing in the sport concerned? I'd say it isn't the norm at all. Look at English language Formula 1 coverage for example, David Croft doesn't, James Allen didn't, Jonathan Legard didn't. Murray Walker did a bit on bikes in the 1940s... Only Ben Edwards did some lower formula circuit racing.

The main failing of WRC+ is is in the co-commentary position, there are so many ex-competitor's that could do well in that role, but they're seemingly too cheap to fill that position properly.

I wouldn't mind the commentary if A) you could disable it like they did give the option back in 2020 &/or B) they'd get people who would do more than just tell us: "they finished the stage for us" or chatting amongst themselves cause they haven't got the slightest clue. For the most part it feels like they don't want to be there, and they're only there to fill the (air) time. To add insult to injury, now we have them both in the WRC & ERC; was it too expensive to get new/other commentators? or does the promoter simply doesn't give a rats ass and we as rally fans are left with that barely baked All-Live? I'm pretty sure that if that kind of level of commentary would appear in F1, someone would get sacked.

[mknight]

I fail to see the big issues with Allive itself.
Porter is good
Desborough is gone (don't remember last time I heard him)
Bec is ok, mostly for "fillup"

Missing Østberg as he was the best "expert" commentator.
Turning commentary off works (did it in Ypres, don't remember if that was on TV or phone).


For attracting new (young fans) different/new plattform is needed to hook them first. YouTube channel with a young and enthusiastic presenter, some "reality" series like drive to survive etc.

For allive itself own camera choice should be possible (pick from 2-3 cameras), specially on TV-stages with many roadside cameras. At some point also pick off on board camera.

[Eli]

I fail to see the big issues with Allive itself.
Porter is good
Desborough is gone (don't remember last time I heard him)
Bec is ok, mostly for "fillup"

Missing Østberg as he was the best "expert" commentator.
Turning commentary off works (did it in Ypres, don't remember if that was on TV or phone).


For attracting new (young fans) different/new plattform is needed to hook them first. YouTube channel with a young and enthusiastic presenter, some "reality" series like drive to survive etc.

For allive itself own camera choice should be possible (pick from 2-3 cameras), specially on TV-stages with many roadside cameras. At some point also pick off on board camera.

Desborough Isn’t gone, he’s now commentating entirely by himself in the daily highlights for each rally and has been doing so since 2020.

How did you manage to turn off commentary? They don’t give that option anymore, tried on both app and web browser of the TV.

[AndyRAC]

For attracting new (young fans) different/new platform is needed to hook them first. YouTube channel with a young and enthusiastic presenter, some "reality" series like drive to survive etc.

I've banging this drum for ages; they need a decent free to air product on YouTube. Regular output on events, weekly round up, lifestyle, tech, etc

[the sniper]

I've banging this drum for ages; they need a decent free to air product on YouTube. Regular output on events, weekly round up, lifestyle, tech, etc

I think I've been saying since before 'drive to survive' was a thing that perhaps a different approach for highlights would be some kind of docu film after each rally, instead of or in addition to the (tired) format of the highlight shows. The challenge would be whether you could get them done quick enough, though producing a show to go out a week later would be a good effort, putting it up on You Tube.

[WRCStan]

I've banging this drum for ages; they need a decent free to air product on YouTube. Regular output on events, weekly round up, lifestyle, tech, etc

Yes, yet no. The last thing I want to watch is WRC Promoter's corporate execution of anything like this. Combination of being able to say the unofficial things like Kitchen Table and the casual approach and accessibility of Road Book would be perfect.

[wyler]

Yes, yet no. The last thing I want to watch is WRC Promoter's corporate execution of anything like this. Combination of being able to say the unofficial things like Kitchen Table and the casual approach and accessibility of Road Book would be perfect.

still think road book should be a format for every team and aired free

[haris274]

Live maps are working??? because I see only a black screen... All Live working properly.