Hyundai WRT

[Eli]

Moncet is not respected as a leader by the Hyundai drivers so he cannot be the one.

As I have said before, for god’s sake, dear Koreans please just decide about team manager’s position!!!!!

And please don’t quit in 2023!

[WRCStan]

Is there anything to say the Redgrey deal goes into next year? It's pretty clear Hyundai want out of everything. Obv then not much of a pull for Tanak.

If they pull out of Rally1 manufacturers next two years I'm sure they'll be chased through the courts, it's not worth it so don't worry. They'll do the very minimum though with drivers who are willing to go unpaid or even pay IMO.

It's a shame if they go at all but 11 years is good going historically. They've got 2 manufacturers titles, their spell is done.

[mknight]

....They'll do the very minimum though with drivers who are willing to go unpaid or even pay IMO....

Did you accidentally switch to MSport?
Cause Hyundai is currently running likely the two most expensive drivers in WRC and prolonged their contract not that long ago (about a year).

(Not counting Ogier who is not doing whole season and Kalle who likely signed contract for less even though his current value might be higher)

[WRCStan]

Did you accidentally switch to MSport?
Cause Hyundai is currently running likely the two most expensive drivers in WRC and prolonged their contract not that long ago (about a year).

Currently, yes. A lot of changes happened in the last year and clearly they are not steaming on in the same way. They might prefer/mutually agree for Tanak to leave, I consider this done. Neuville seems part of the furniture at least and obviously if he has a solid contract it'll be honoured but I wouldn't be surprised to see them part ways. As for driver #2 and #3, they don't have to pay anybody, that's where we're at.

[ouvreur]

They might prefer/mutually agree for Tanak to leave, I consider this done.

A month ago, you would probably have been closer to being correct. Now? Where could he go? He would have to have mental problems to jump to M-Sport. That chance (and the desirability of making it happen) has long gone. He'll be driving an i20 for at least another year.

Neuville seems part of the furniture at least and obviously if he has a solid contract it'll be honoured but I wouldn't be surprised to see them part ways. As for driver #2 and #3, they don't have to pay anybody, that's where we're at.

I would guess (since that's all us armchair experts can do really) that Neuville's on the same sort of contract as Tanak. So the current lineup - well, two-thirds of it anyway - are set until the end of 2023. What happens then, and with the third car, is an open question.

If they are set on leaving, it will almost certainly be at the end of 2024 that it happens. It doesn't make much sense to pack up before then, it'd cost just as much to do that as to just run the car as they have been doing until the end of the homologation cycle. The parent company can easily afford it, and don't have a diesel emissions scandal hanging over them, like VW in 2016.

I don't see it with quite as much doom and gloom as it seems you do. Things aren't rosy, that's for sure, but despite that they've caught up pretty quickly with a team/car everyone feared would be utterly dominant (even beating them fair and square in their own back yard, winning a rally that neither of the previous leadership regimes ever managed), and far surpassed the team famous for adapting well to new regulations. The more time passes, the better their car seems to get.

As I said, things seemed in the toilet a month ago. If they'd put out a press release announcing their withdrawal, it wouldn't have been such a surprise. Now, though? It really looks like they've turned a corner. The car clearly isn't a bad one (if it ever was). If they can get their house in order, there's no reason they can't stay indefinitely. They need to as well, because it doesn't seem at all obvious where a new manufacturer would come from, and Ford look like they're flogging a dead horse with their current driver lineup and level of manufacturer investment.

[seb_sh]

I really hope Hyundai keeps going. The MSport/Citroen era was bad for the sport. If something like that happens congratulations Kalle for 2 or 3 titles.

[TypeR]

Eric Boullier new team boss..? Former Lotus and McLaren F1 team boss for nearly 10 years.

French guy.. more to Neuville's side?
https://www.rallyssimo.it/2022/08/22...eric-boullier/

[EstWRC]

thats hell of a name if its true

[seb_sh]

At the moment he is the organizer if the French GP which is rumored to lose its place on the Formula 1 calendar.

[Eli]

Eric Boullier new team boss..? Former Lotus and McLaren F1 team boss for nearly 10 years.

French guy.. more to Neuville's side?
https://www.rallyssimo.it/2022/08/22...eric-boullier/

Seems like the Italians know a thing or two, based on Dirtfish anyhow: https://dirtfish.com/rally/eric-boul...-lead-hyundai/