Rally1 hybrid cars (2022-)

[lmmjvss]

Why don't you want more brands ?
For me Rally is about cars not drivers.

I think I have changed my views about WRC over the last months.
3 brands is enough! 3 teams is not. I personally wish we could have 3 brands but 6 or 7 teams, racing one year old cars (starting in 2023 with the 2022 cars and so on, like the Ducatti teams in MotoGP - not sure if this is possible in new WRC rules tho). NOt sure how the economics of that would work too but imagine having Lotos, IceOne, Qatar, AbuDhabi, Chicherit, ProDrive, Prokop with Rally1 car teams too! Some costumers, some satellites, some privatters... Different collors, maybe some design change allowed... I know we have Rally2 already but they will never be the top class and I honestly LOVE the WRC and Rally1 cars more than any other class haha so give us more teams! (more cars, more drivers)

[WRCStan]

Middle of the night can't sleep wheelbase factoid: all these cars have slightly longer wheelbase than their road going counterparts. Puma 12mm, i20 N 50mm, GR Yaris 70mm. Who says smaller is better?

[tommeke_B]

They all have roughly 100mm longer wheelbase than the Octavia WRC and Subaru S12 WRC had.

[denkimi]

I'm not sure I'd class it as great; 4-5 manufacturers is the ideal number, with 3-4 cars per team. When you have 6-7 manufacturers, they all can't win, and some pull out. We saw this in the early 2000s....

Yet we have 10 f1 teams although most of them can never win.

[er88]

Yet we have 10 f1 teams although most of them can never win.

F1 is a different beast in terms of media exposure though.

F1 also technically only has 3 manufacturers (Ferrari, Merc and Alpine/Renault), with Red Bull just a powerhouse of an organisation.

Rallying could maybe improve with sub teams - like 2C Hyundai running 2 cars. Or when we had the Stobart Ford Team.

[tommeke_B]

There's certainly not a restriction to add more teams and cars to the championship. But it seems that at the moment no company is willing to pay the bill for the return they think it's going to offer.

[mknight]

In F1 teams get paid for points (based on selling TV rights).

In WRC teams pay the promoter (via championship entry fees) and get nothing for points.

[becher]

Middle of the night can't sleep wheelbase factoid: all these cars have slightly longer wheelbase than their road going counterparts. Puma 12mm, i20 N 50mm, GR Yaris 70mm. Who says smaller is better?

Short car, long wheelbase that's the way to go. The other way round like Subaru for example is just pointless.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

OK so the first rally with the new cars is done and it's not been too bad.

Yes there have been quite a few problems with them but only Hyundai's caused retirement.

On a positive note it was nice that so many drivers said they liked their car (esp M-Sport's) and I didn't hear any moaning about the manual gear change, lack of centre-diff, lack of aero or reduced suspension travel.

[ictus]

I didn't hear any moaning about the manual gear change, lack of centre-diff, lack of aero or reduced suspension travel.

It's the same for everybody so why should there be any moaning?
Also the reduced travel is still more than enough on tarmac