Quote Originally Posted by cali View Post
And it shows how much hold Loeb has over Ogier. He almost never makes mistakes and in the end a little choke was all the Maestro needed....was caused by his presence
Yep, Ogier has own complex for Loeb. Always focusing on him.

Since we have the forever Ogier vs Loeb debate....

For me Ogier has better results (with 3 different manus and complete domination over everyone including Latvala in VW).
Loeb could have possibly gotten as good results, but "sadly" for him the competition was rather thin during some of his career and he never had to change teams.

On a personal level I agree that Loeb doesn't have same excuses for everything like Ogier.