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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    From whom of the manufacturers can we expect upgrades for the 2022 season?

    Has MSport figured out upgrades for gravel on the Mk2?
    Will Skoda hit bullseye with the new Fabia?
    Is the i20 there yet, or will it be polished somewhat?
    Can Citroen C3 have jokers coming for 2022?
    Will we see other manufacturers coming in during 22?
    M-Sport may have more time and resouces for the Fiesta Rally2 after concentrating everything on the Puma Rally1 this year.

    Opel are waiting for the Rally2 hybrid era and Peugeot seem happy with the 208 Rally4.

    The i20 should be spot-on with all of the development and drivers its had thrown at it.

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    M-sport build a Fiat Panda R5

    https://fb.watch/9KVSvS9y_p/

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    Seems like M-sport have a new customer-part of theire business, building cars on other bases than Ford.
    Is it then possible to let them build an homologated Rally2 on, lets say a Mazda or a Fiat? If you pay the bills of course
    They are not a manufacturer, so the brand have to be involved still?


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    Quote Originally Posted by skarderud View Post
    Seems like M-sport have a new customer-part of theire business, building cars on other bases than Ford.
    Is it then possible to let them build an homologated Rally2 on, lets say a Mazda or a Fiat? If you pay the bills of course
    They are not a manufacturer, so the brand have to be involved still?


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    Yes, the manufacturer has to be involved in the homologation process, at least, as the category's base production cars must be FIA homologated. Contrast this with non-FIA championship TCR where the cars are not homologated by the factory, but must comply with a Certificate of Description, which is supplied by the TCR car builder who may be completely independent of the base car's manufacturer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Hokkaido View Post
    Yes, the manufacturer has to be involved in the homologation process, at least, as the category's base production cars must be FIA homologated. Contrast this with non-FIA championship TCR where the cars are not homologated by the factory, but must comply with a Certificate of Description, which is supplied by the TCR car builder who may be completely independent of the base car's manufacturer.
    Yes, and there we see the reason the manufacturer-rule has to be removed.
    Why have they that rule? The car in the Rally2 down to Rally5 is anyway productionbased cars, it should be no need for manufacturer-involvment there.

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    Skoda confirm new Fabia Rally2 will have a completely new drivetrain and they are aiming for a summer 2022 debut:

    https://www.skoda-storyboard.com/en/...-rally-season/

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    Quote Originally Posted by skarderud View Post
    Yes, and there we see the reason the manufacturer-rule has to be removed.
    Why have they that rule? The car in the Rally2 down to Rally5 is anyway productionbased cars, it should be no need for manufacturer-involvment there.

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    I think it’s fair enough.. the manufacturers will want some control over competition vehicles bearing their brand in order to protect their reputation, and besides without some kind of manufacturer support a Rally2 project is unlikely to be very successful. It’s not the olden days any more where vehicles in the lower classes were literally a road car with a rollcage and some bucket seats bolted in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS View Post
    Skoda confirm new Fabia Rally2 will have a completely new drivetrain and they are aiming for a summer 2022 debut:

    https://www.skoda-storyboard.com/en/...-rally-season/
    440 Fabia R5 sold... that's a nice business!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    440 Fabia R5 sold... that's a nice business!
    Where does the profit go from all these Fabia R5 sales ?

    I wish a lot of those were M-Sport Fiesta R5 sales to help keep this rally business thriving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Where does the profit go from all these Fabia R5 sales ?

    I wish a lot of those were M-Sport Fiesta R5 sales to help keep this rally business thriving.
    From what we're told, I doubt Skoda would have hung around if the program didn't make a profit. Good to share the wealth around and they're rewarded for a great product.

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