[WRC] Rally Estonia 15-18 July 2021

[meh]

I'm struggling to decide to go or to watch from home as well. Probably final decision on Friday.

[AnttiL]

Seems like a better road selection than 2020.

They are using like 90% of last year's roads, but in different configurations, and Kanepi is reversed. There are four completely new stages, since the rally is now normal length compared to last year's shortened version.

But I agree, the stages are good, there's a good mix of fast and slow, and there are difficult sections.

[EstWRC]

SS10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np5fMl9OI00
SS11 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMVrNzEm6BQ


but not fully, parts skipped

[AnttiL]

SS10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np5fMl9OI00
SS11 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMVrNzEm6BQ


but not fully, parts skipped

Both videos were linked on my blog. The GoPro fisheye effect takes out all the visual information from the video, all corners are straightened and crests flattened. But at least you see what kind of roads the stages contain.

[cali]

They are using like 90% of last year's roads, but in different configurations, and Kanepi is reversed. There are four completely new stages, since the rally is now normal length compared to last year's shortened version.

But I agree, the stages are good, there's a good mix of fast and slow, and there are difficult sections.

That's what I meant in nutshell, yes

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[EstWRC]

Both videos were linked on my blog. The GoPro fisheye effect takes out all the visual information from the video, all corners are straightened and crests flattened. But at least you see what kind of roads the stages contain.

havent had the time to look your blog yet.

but agreed, the camera always takes the effects away....every year we recce some of the stages in Rally Finland and its totally different compared to onboard vids, you have goosebumps when driving them, same for Estonia when i last time recced some stages in 2019 but from the vids it seems its nothing special

[EstWRC]

credit https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/s...204662786?s=20

[EstWRC]

Seems like a better road selection than 2020. Interested to watch it, but this time I will watch it at home.

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i had the same plan but in the end my friends really convinced me, so i gave up and agreed but i already regret it.

maybe many people here are wondering why we talk like that after we got the wrc round to our home. the problem is Aava and co-s stupidity with the spectator system and places. The places are just so so so boring and people want to choose the stages and spectating places themselves. I really hope the other rallies wont start copying this system, especially Rally Finland.

Besides that, you cant even bring your own food and water to the stage, they made an exception this year with the water because of the heatwave but as i understand you can only bring a little bottle. In Rally Finland you can bring basically anything to the stage side, i mean food and drink wise, guys barbecuing sausages there or making an egg or coffee in the morning with the gas grill and etc.

and we have to pay 80 euros for this. The ticket sale is mildly said shit this year, last year all the tickets (15 000) were sold in one day! This year the tickets came on sale on 4th of June and so far only 3 different passes (out of 15) have been sold out. So i guess many people had enough after seeing how the system worked last year and they decided this year they dont want it.

Interesting to see if they will change something or not after this year with not such a good ticket sale but i really doubt as long as they get big money from the government.

Im really happy that we got our WRC round, it has always been a dream for me, but this spectating system just doesnt work.

[cali]

i had the same plan but in the end my friends really convinced me, so i gave up and agreed but i already regret it.

maybe many people here are wondering why we talk like that after we got the wrc round to our home. the problem is Aava and co-s stupidity with the spectator system and places. The places are just so so so boring and people want to choose the stages and spectating places themselves. I really hope the other rallies wont start copying this system, especially Rally Finland.

Besides that, you cant even bring your own food and water to the stage, they made an exception this year with the water because of the heatwave but as i understand you can only bring a little bottle. In Rally Finland you can bring basically anything to the stage side, i mean food and drink wise, guys barbecuing sausages there or making an egg or coffee in the morning with the gas grill and etc.

and we have to pay 80 euros for this. The ticket sale is mildly said shit this year, last year all the tickets (15 000) were sold in one day! This year the tickets came on sale on 4th of June and so far only 3 different passes (out of 15) have been sold out. So i guess many people had enough after seeing how the system worked last year and they decided this year they dont want it.

Interesting to see if they will change something or not after this year with not such a good ticket sale but i really doubt as long as they get big money from the government.

Im really happy that we got our WRC round, it has always been a dream for me, but this spectating system just doesnt work.

I completely agree with you. This ultra capitalist system has really backfired for the organisers. I have many friends who are not going this year. Most of them are gathering at their friends summer houses, they set up screens to watch rally and have a good time.

Rally for me is experience with some wow moments, but also an adventure when I can just pick my spots or even if I have to walk many kms it's part of an adventure.

This however is not what I (dare to say WE) have not used to and it's certainly isn't positive experience. Last years Rally Estonia was the worst WRC event for me ever. Just completely boring with pointless spectating areas. It killed my appetite for 2021 edition.

We see and hear ads on TV and radio every day and friend of mine who's a bit connected says ticket sales are very worrysome

Hopefully the corporative mindset will break and they will change the system for the future.

IMHO the Power Stage is complete bull...in an otherwise interesting route.

Still, hopefully we have a fantastic rally with excellent performances

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[bomber21]

Wow, I could not even think what you are describing guys. I have been to some rallies abroad and to Acropolis and I was free to carry with me whatever I wanted and stay where I wanted (always respecting safety and marshalls).
I was considering to visit Rally Estonia at some point but after this info, no.
It is a pity for Estonian people whose unbelievable passion I witnessed in Catalunya 2019.