2021 Race 8 - Styrian Grand Prix

[Zico]

FIA is changing rules on pit stops to slow them down.

https://www.racefans.net/2021/06/24/...eir-pit-stops/

It has being suggested that Merc may be behind this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/57615628

Is this a case of... If you can't pit stop as fast as your rivals, lobby the FIA slow theirs down?

First bendy wings lobbying, now this. Utter desperation Merc.. really not cool.

[Nitrodaze]

It has being suggested that Merc may be behind this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/57615628

Is this a case of... If you can't pit stop as fast as your rivals, lobby the FIA slow theirs down?

First bendy wings lobbying, now this. Utter desperation Merc.. really not cool.

I doubt Mercedes is behind this. It has been long coming with the situation of tyres flying off cars we have seen in the past. That said, it is puzzling why they have introduced it now. There has not been any major incident from pitstops recently. Hence, l can see Horner's suspicions about its origin. One of Redbull's biggest weapon in its armoury; is its 2-seconds pitstop that very few teams can match. They easily gain a second or two at pitstops.

When Mercedes were scratching their heads as to why Hamilton did not undercut Verstappen at Paul Ricard, was a combination of faster pitstop and out lap times by Redbull and Verstappen.

When l read about this, l thought they [F1M] were over regulating again. But in reality, it was probably long overdue.

[airshifter]

I doubt Mercedes is behind this. It has been long coming with the situation of tyres flying off cars we have seen in the past. That said, it is puzzling why they have introduced it now. There has not been any major incident from pitstops recently. Hence, l can see Horner's suspicions about its origin. One of Redbull's biggest weapon in its armoury; is its 2-seconds pitstop that very few teams can match. They easily gain a second or two at pitstops.

When Mercedes were scratching their heads as to why Hamilton did not undercut Verstappen at Paul Ricard, was a combination of faster pitstop and out lap times by Redbull and Verstappen.

When l read about this, l thought they [F1M] were over regulating again. But in reality, it was probably long overdue.

Hamilton's stationary time in the pit was a tenth quicker than Max. Where he lost time was in the pit lane itself, not on the stopped time. He lost 6 tenths from pit entry to pit exit after accounting for the stop gain. So that's not on the team, unless the pit lane limiter was not properly adjusted.

Max simply put in an absolute blazing lap to make up the difference.




As for the new regs, though RB have more fastest stops than anyone else, I think it's three other teams that have had fastest pits per track this season. And really that fastest pits don't always involve the wheel coming off issues.... those seem random and it's been quite a while.

[Nitrodaze]

Hamilton's stationary time in the pit was a tenth quicker than Max. Where he lost time was in the pit lane itself, not on the stopped time. He lost 6 tenths from pit entry to pit exit after accounting for the stop gain. So that's not on the team, unless the pit lane limiter was not properly adjusted.

Max simply put in an absolute blazing lap to make up the difference.




As for the new regs, though RB have more fastest stops than anyone else, I think it's three other teams that have had fastest pits per track this season. And really that fastest pits don't always involve the wheel coming off issues.... those seem random and it's been quite a while.

What is your point ??? And where is the data to back your claim of standstill times?

[airshifter]

What is your point ??? And where is the data to back your claim of standstill times?

https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id...ists-french-gp

My point is clear, that you keep stating quicker pit stops, regardless of it being the case or not. The pit in/pit out, inlaps and outlaps all have a hand as well.

Pit lane times are often found on several sites, and pit stopped time is usually shown on timing during the race.

Hamllton had a 2.2 stop, hardly a slug.

[Zico]

https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id...ists-french-gp

My point is clear, that you keep stating quicker pit stops, regardless of it being the case or not. The pit in/pit out, inlaps and outlaps all have a hand as well.

Pit lane times are often found on several sites, and pit stopped time is usually shown on timing during the race.

Hamllton had a 2.2 stop, hardly a slug.

Fair points.. the Mercs do seem to have a low speed traction deficit compared to RBR.

It is suggested in my previous link that RBR may be using some sort of automated pit light system which if legal and true would remove human latency from their pit stop procedure, which could be worth around 2 tenths.

Done well, I'd expect such a system to also be safer than a human controlled one so maybe Merc ought to emulate rather than neutralise their rivals system via the FIA under a false safety precedent.

Makes you wonder what else they are grasping at behind the scenes.

[Nitrodaze]

Hamllton had a 2.2 stop, hardly a slug.

In this race, Redbull did it 2sec flat. A two-tenths gain