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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    I have old (?) itinerary saying 8:30 for Fafe1... Maybe they used that one?
    But rest of cars running by "8:38 itinerary" and it's a 8min time gap on a stage between 1st and 2nd cars

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    Well, Ogier doesn't crash and that's why he is multiple WDC and Neuville and Tanak aren't. We can talk about cars, issues and so on but it all comes down to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pršljen View Post
    Well, Ogier doesn't crash and that's why he is multiple WDC and Neuville and Tanak aren't. We can talk about cars, issues and so on but it all comes down to this.
    Tänaks last crash was Monte 2020, while Ogiers was Arctic this year and Neuville on this rally. Before Monte 2020, the last crash Tänak had was in Australia 2018. In 17 he definitely lost the title due his own mistakes (Finland, Poland, France, Portugal)

    But in 2018 I would say Tänak definitely lost the title due technical/mechanical failures. Kind off also in 2020, kind off because we can also say he lost the title due to Monte crash and 0 points but he also had technical failures again in Turkey and Sardegna where he didnt get many points, which was very vital which such a short season.
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    #8 Ott Tänak - Martin Järveoja #8
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    #8 Ott Tänak - Martin Järveoja #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    Ogier's rant: "Making a regulation for losers, that was never my vision"

    "I feel annoyed but that's the usual feeling after opening days. Those kind of days are very long. What Neuville did today is not bad. It is sure he was a little faster than me starting second but that makes a difference compared to the first place. He certainly drives faster than me throughout the day. About thirty seconds separate us: I think that twenty are due to our positions, "slipped the reigning world champion to Olivier Gaspard, RTBF special correspondent in Sardinia.

    And to conclude, in a tone that sticks to his annoyance: "What do I hope for tomorrow? That the weekend is over and we go home. My speech is the same as last year, ca This has been going on for several years. This is not the vision I have of sport. Making a regulation for the losers (editor's note: the losers), that was never my vision. But that's how it is ... "

    https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/ra...ion?id=9629948
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    It is not normal in this competition and such a high pace for Tanak to beat them for 5 minutes per section. This means that he does not know how to protect his car. That is why his results will be like this. Most stop at the very turn only Ott comes to one side from the middle of the line. I apologize, but there is no car to withstand it, he is to blame for most of the dropouts. He will have to change his style because of poor Hyundai .... I apologize for my English ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ds3 View Post
    It is not normal in this competition and such a high pace for Tanak to beat them for 5 minutes per section. This means that he does not know how to protect his car. That is why his results will be like this. Most stop at the very turn only Ott comes to one side from the middle of the line. I apologize, but there is no car to withstand it, he is to blame for most of the dropouts. He will have to change his style because of poor Hyundai .... I apologize for my English ....
    really?

    i remember very clearly Tommi saying in an interview back in 18 or 19 that when Ott comes back to the service with the car it looks good and well held.

    of course he could lie too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ds3 View Post
    It is not normal in this competition and such a high pace for Tanak to beat them for 5 minutes per section. This means that he does not know how to protect his car. That is why his results will be like this. Most stop at the very turn only Ott comes to one side from the middle of the line. I apologize, but there is no car to withstand it, he is to blame for most of the dropouts. He will have to change his style because of poor Hyundai .... I apologize for my English ....
    are you really sure that you know exactly what you are talking about?

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    I dont know. It seems weird for me that for every rally Tänak has won there is at least 1 if not more where he has either crashed, had tyre failures costing him the win or technical issue.

    The same with Hyundai, the big advantage for Hyundai compared to Toyota was supposed to be reliability. Somehow Tänak has had technical problems now in 3 out of the 5 gravel rallies he has raced with Hyundai.

    Meanwhile suddenly Ogier has 1 and Evans 0 (if I am not forgetting anything) with Toyota.

    Also seems crazy Ogier, driving with so many different manufacturers has so few of these technical issues with each car.

    How many rallies has Ogier lost from a leading position due to crash, tyre or mechanical failure? Dont think we can compare the rate of wins to lost wins ratio with Tänak. When Ogier is comfortably leading a rally you basically know he will win it.

    With Tänak you always have that feeling there is at least a 25-30% chance of something going horribly wrong.

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