WRC Croatia Rally 2021

[wyler]

C'mon, can't you just admit that it'obviously possible to have a rally with spectators with no apparent Covid consequences...

well... no! nobody can.

[Pršljen]

well... no! nobody can.

Can you state otherwise? No, you can't. And that's the point. Yes, rally happened, no, there wasn't any known Covid consequences. And yes, let's not allow spectators on Sardinia and Portugal, we need thorough analysis about is it safe or not. Let's bring epidemiologists and all experts to make some study about it. Without that, people don't have right to spectate a rally live.

[Pršljen]

It's a bit like "I drove 1000 km without seat belts and nothing happened, no one needs seat belts anymore"

Well, it's not. Seatbelts are not rally fans who love the sport and who make the sport what it is. They are just piece of metal.

[Tom K]

My last bit in this strange - on forum with rallyfans - topic. Spectators are allowed to be on Portuguese stages. If we see similar pictures - crowds on relatively small area - it will be wrong because it's dangerous or it will be OK, because officially rally is held with spectators?

[Rallyper]

It's a bit like "I drove 1000 km without seat belts and nothing happened, no one needs seat belts anymore"

Big no, AnttiL.

[pantealex]

My last bit in this strange - on forum with rallyfans - topic. Spectators are allowed to be on Portuguese stages. If we see similar pictures - crowds on relatively small area - it will be wrong because it's dangerous or it will be OK, because officially rally is held with spectators?

For me it´s OK, because spectating is allowed.

[tommeke_B]

For me it´s OK, because spectating is allowed.

It was in Croatia too...

In contrary to Monte Carlo, Sardinia, Monza etc last year, the organization never published an article stating spectating was not allowed, they only asked to follow the rules implied by the government (which weren't followed on larger public areas as we've seen). Maps and updates in itinerary were still published for spectators. Stages were prepared with miles of tape, trash bags etc Police and marshals were guiding people to the stages... What happened in Croatia, with many thousands of spectators, was meant and planned to happen. It was not by accident.

[wyler]

Can you state otherwise? No, you can't. And that's the point. Yes, rally happened, no, there wasn't any known Covid consequences. And yes, let's not allow spectators on Sardinia and Portugal, we need thorough analysis about is it safe or not. Let's bring epidemiologists and all experts to make some study about it. Without that, people don't have right to spectate a rally live.

er...that what is happing worldwide...I'm just saying what the epidemiologist and all experts say based on the study they did. I'm sorry if you are unaware of this.

and no. this "can't u state otherwise" is totally silly, 'cause doesn't mean anything. just that we cannot state things. can u prove god exists? no. can u prove the opposite? no either. which is my point. a case doesn't prove enough. experts are still studying, but based on what they studied till now, they recommend staying shy on this matter.
hope this is clear enough, I won't come back on this point anymore.

[AnttiL]

It was in Croatia too...

In contrary to Monte Carlo, Sardinia, Monza etc last year, the organization never published an article stating spectating was not allowed

The difference with Croatia was that they had everything planned for a rally with spectators until Monday of the rally week, when a new government limitation came in effect. After that they just announced they are not allowed to sell tickets, and that people must obey the government restrictions (no gatherings of more than 25 people). And privately they told people that they can not spectate the rally but have a picnic alongside the stages.

AFAIK Portugal has had one of the strictest policies of all WRC events that spectators must be only on the designated spectator areas, usually packed, and not on freely chosen locations. It will be interesting to see how they will limit the people on the areas.

[sti123]

The difference with Croatia was that they had everything planned for a rally with spectators until Monday of the rally week, when a new government limitation came in effect. After that they just announced they are not allowed to sell tickets, and that people must obey the government restrictions (no gatherings of more than 25 people). And privately they told people that they can not spectate the rally but have a picnic alongside the stages.

AFAIK Portugal has had one of the strictest policies of all WRC events that spectators must be only on the designated spectator areas, usually packed, and not on freely chosen locations. It will be interesting to see how they will limit the people on the areas.

I think they try to handle the crowds with ticket prices, 390€ for a weekend pass: https://rally-pass.com/collections/passes