WRC Croatia Rally 2021

[Mirek]

I completely agree, I don't think it's Ogier's fault. Overtaking from the right (and this isn't UK-Australia,South Africa, Cyprus roads), don't know what that BMW was thinking but it denied Ogier any chance of taking the victory here.

Overtaking from the right is allowed in city driving in most countries (here for sure). It's not even called overtaking.

The other guy didn't drive 50 km/h, that's quite sure. Still Ogier's mistake.

[KKS]

Really? Just because you are in a rally car that doesn’t mean road rules don’t apply. You are supposed to use blinkers and make sure the other lane is clear before doing that.

road rules have a point that all drivers are stick to the rules and other will expect that. So if it clear to 50kph road- it's ok.

[Franky]

Think it's pointless to point fingers at anyone in that accident as both sides played a role that in the end caused the accident.

[Eli]

Overtaking from the right is allowed in city driving in most countries (here for sure). It's not even called overtaking.

The other guy didn't drive 50 km/h, that's quite sure. Still Ogier's mistake.

Ok, I didn't know that, here it's illegal to overtake from the right no matter if you're inside the city or outside. I accept that he didn't over-speed but he still did try to go faster than Ogier; Also we shouldn't forget, with all that Aero, Ogier has a lot of blind spots. The only thing Ogier did wrong was not indicating with his indicators. In any case, when you see a rally car on the road, you don't try to outmaneuver it. Not the first time this happens (probably isn't the last as well), reminds of before shakedown(?) back in Sweden 2005 with Petter Solberg.

[Mirek]

It's also very difficult to see something with the rearview mirrors they have...

[EstWRC]

as it is now

Evans ............ 56 pts
Neuville .......... 50 pts
Ogier .............. 49 pts
Tanak ............. 39 pts
Rovanpera ...... 39 pts


if Ogier finish 3rd

Evans ........... 56 pts
Neuville ........ 53 pts
Ogier ............ 46 pts
Tanak ............ 39 pts
Rovanpera .... 39 pts

The championship will be very very very tight this year until the end.

See how much the zero from Croatia costs for Kalle and the same goes for Ott with zero from Monte.


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[flat_right]

The way how I see it is that although the BWM guy was speeding, then Ogier can't change lanes and then turn directly to the bus stop pocket to do whatever. You can hear from the sound that Ogier accelerates, changes lanes and then stops. Even if BMW was doing normal speed, then this accident would happened. Had Ogier continued with normal speed, then BMW guy would have had time to decelerate but if you completely stop, then there is no chance.

[Mirek]

The only thing Ogier did wrong was not indicating with his indicators.

That's the basic thing of all and which makes me angry on the roads all the time. The very first thing of being safe in traffic is to be predictable. And that starts with clearly giving others in advance an idea what you are going to do.

Crossing over two lanes to the right is by default a potentially dangerous situation and you always have to be very careful when you do that. Especially if you don't see well behind...

[Eli]

It's also very difficult to see something with the rear-view mirrors they have...

Exactly and as a road-car you should consider that when trying to overtake or whatever that BMW was trying to do. Not taking away from the fact that Ogier didn't use his indicators, but as a road user you should always be alert, especially with rally cars running around.

[Eli]

That's the basic thing of all and which makes me angry on the roads all the time. The very first thing of being safe in traffic is to be predictable. And that starts with clearly giving others in advance an idea what you are going to do.

Crossing over two lanes to the right is by default a potentially dangerous situation and you always have to be very careful when you do that. Especially if you don't see well behind...

True, here they love overtaking from the right (although it's illegal) but that's what happens when the police is more worried about filling their pockets with speeding tickets (from speed cameras) than the actual safety of road users, I guess that's why people here hate indicating all the time, so you really have to guess what's a driver going to do next. But we're really off-topic here, in any case, that's Ogier's win, gone.