TOYOTA GAZOO Racing WRT

[pantealex]

Autocar:
"We’re not sure if Toyota will make the hatch a regular member of the band or restrict it to a limited-run homologation special. If it’s the latter, Toyota will build at least 25,000 of them to comply with WRC rules."

CAR:
"With most of the world turning to boring cars, Toyota has found its mojo with the GR brand and released another product hot on the heels of the recently relaunched Toyota Supra. What’s more, the Yaris GR isn’t just a limited run special, but it’s a 25k run of cars that is born out of the need to homologate its WRC car."

You are copying things from Magazines, what is actual FIA WRC rules saying ?

[Tarmop]

Eddie, You already started the same discussion in another thread and you got the same answers, taken from the FIA rules and written by people who know the area. Even one of your favourite journalists has confirmed it, yet again you try to claim otherwise. Exactly the same scenario has happened a few times before.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

You are copying things from Magazines, what is actual FIA WRC rules saying ?

I know the FIA rules but they dont confirm whether the normal 5-door Yaris is ok as the base car, or if it must be the vasty-different GR Yaris.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Eddie, You already started the same discussion in another thread and you got the same answers, taken from the FIA rules and written by people who know the area. Even one of your favourite journalists has confirmed it, yet again you try to claim otherwise. Exactly the same scenario has happened a few times before.

Tarmop, where is this other discussion and where is your proof of only 2500 cars required ?

[tommeke_B]

It's a good question actually. If it works that way, Hyundai could now also make a base car for their next WRC, that has almost nothing to do with the actual i20. Then they could put the label "i20" on it and sell only 2500 pieces of it.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The base car has to sell 25000.

The model-variant, just 2500.

But the GR Yaris is a lot more than a model variant as it has a different, unique shell and chassis.

For example, a Fiesta ST is a model variant.

[Rally Power]

The base car has to sell 25000.
The model-variant, just 2500.
But the GR Yaris is a lot more than a model variant as it has a different, unique shell and chassis.
For example, a Fiesta ST is a model variant.

For gods sake, there’s no mention about 25.000 units in the FIA rules, just 2.500. All current rally cars, from R1 to WRC, are homologated under Gr.A basic rules (therefore the 2.500 units) and later modified according to their category regs (using the evolution variants of the Gr.A model). Check FIA Appendix J Article 255 (Gr.A) and 255A (WRC kit variant).

Once WRC cars rules are quite permissive, manus tend to use a cheap mass-produced model to cope with Gr.A homologation demands but they’re free to make 2.500 homologation special models if they want; actually the Yaris GR4 isn’t the first case in the WRC era: at least the 206 GT (4.000 units) and the Polo R (2.500 units) were purposely made to achieve Gr.A/WRC homologation.
http://www.cwn.org.uk/motoring/peuge...505-206-gt.htm
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volksw...gen-polo-r-wrc

Btw, even the Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Rally_Car has the 2.500 figure right, which makes one wonder from where the 25.000 figure come out.

[HKSjbg]

Wasn’t 2,500 model variants out of 25,000 total the old Group A8 rules? i.e. 2,500 Lancia Delta Integrales out of 25,000 Lancia Deltas etc?

[Rally Power]

Wasn’t 2,500 model variants out of 25,000 total the old Group A8 rules? i.e. 2,500 Lancia Delta Integrales out of 25,000 Lancia Deltas etc?

Again, it’s hard to find a mention to the 25.000 units (or 50.000, as Gr.A started in ’82 with a mandatory 5.000 units homologation, reduced to 2.500 in ’93) in FIA regs.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Again, it’s hard to find a mention to the 25.000 units (or 50.000, as Gr.A started in ’82 with a mandatory 5.000 units homologation, reduced to 2.500 in ’93) in FIA regs.

Try this from Toyota

Toyota Motor Corporation (Toyota) premiered the new GR Yaris―a homologation*1 model born to win the FIA World Rally Championship (WRC)―at the Tokyo Auto Salon today.(Appendix 1): https://global.toyota/en/newsroom/toyota/30976389.html

(*1) The necessary type of certification for participating in an FIA (Federation Internationale de l'Automobile) race. To acquire WRC homologation, the base model of a vehicle to be entered in a race must have a continuous 12-month production volume of 25,000 units or greater.



The Yaris GR is so different from the normal Yaris, it itself must be considered the BASE MODEL, hence it needs 25,000 units.

The Ford Fiesta WRC is based on the Fiesta ST. But the ST is very similar to the base Fiesta. So Ford has to make 25000 basic Fiesta's and only 2500 ST's.


And from another forum on this subject:

Quote: RSgeoff
I don't understand why they need to sell 25,000 to qualify for WRC - why aren't all the other WRC manufacturers having to do the same then?

Jakeh:
It's because they changed the car too much for it to count as a variant of a normal Yaris, so they have to do a special production car to count as the base for the WRC car.