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    Well, big surprise to me.

    However we saw what the Polo did to Ogier.

    At Citroen Ogier became more human. The car jst makes the final difference, the small margin you need to win...

    2020 will be even more exciting.
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    Tommi Mäkinen, back in the years...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrc2017 View Post
    Also Ogier if he goes to Toyota. Has he the raw speed that Tanak has?
    The raw speed part is maybe in question, but I personally think Tanak has the edge.

    However, Ogier will win the title in 2020 if he's in a Yaris. If he stays at Citroen, he will compete for it (and have a better chance than this year).

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrc2017 View Post
    Yes, but why so vocal. What Tanak does doesn't really affect him or his drivers.
    why so vocal? because he is jelous that he havent got the ''power'' to ask from manufacturers/teams for that money(and not only) with his current driver line up,as does Tanak/Martin
    because he is so many years with armada of drivers,and somebody else managed to stop the ''Seb'' lailapa.
    of course affects his drivers.Tanak go to hyundai=one more year for Latvala=money for him.If Tanak was at Toyota Latvalas seat was at high risk.
    So Jouhki even Tanak wouldnt like to ''steal'' yaris r5,wouldnt like to have Tanak at Toyota.
    He would prefere Kalle for example...and Latvala=money x 2

    if Tanak/Martin managed to gain their requirements from Adamo/Hyundai, seems that was possible from a big budget team to satisfy them.
    But we dont know if they took the same requirements from Adamo.
    At Tanaks press release,there is a paragraph that maybe this is about


    '''“The vision that Andrea has set out is very promising and matches my own ambitions for the future'''
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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    why so vocal? because he is jelous that he havent got the ''power'' to ask from manufacturers/teams for that money(and not only) with his current driver line up,as does Tanak/Martin
    because he is so many years with armada of drivers,and somebody else managed to stop the ''Seb'' lailapa.
    of course affects his drivers.Tanak go to hyundai=one more year for Latvala=money for him.If Tanak was at Toyota Latvalas seat was at high risk.
    So Jouhki even Tanak wouldnt like to ''steal'' yaris r5,wouldnt like to have Tanak at Toyota.
    He would prefere Kalle for example...

    if Tanak/Martin managed to gain their requirements from Adamo/Hyundai, seems that was possible from a big budget team to satisfy them.
    But we dont know if they took the same requirements from Adamo.
    At Tanaks press release,there is a paragraph that maybe this is about


    '''“The vision that Andrea has set out is very promising and matches my own ambitions for the future'''
    Don't fully agree with above. If Tänak stayed, Latvala was looking unlikely. If Ogier comes, Latvala is looking unlikely. Joukki hope Ogier doesn't go to Toyota, so that chance of Latvala staying increases. That's why he commented "50/50" of Ogier to Toyota.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrc2017 View Post
    Don't fully agree with above. If Tänak stayed, Latvala was looking unlikely. If Ogier comes, Latvala is looking unlikely. Joukki hope Ogier doesn't go to Toyota, so that chance of Latvala staying increases. That's why he commented "50/50" of Ogier to Toyota.
    he didnt said that he likes to have Ogier at Toyota....,he just said that is 50-50

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    he didnt said that he likes to have Ogier at Toyota....,he just said that is 50-50
    I didn't say he did want Ogiera at Toyota. I feel his only hope of Latvala staying, is Ogier doesn't go to Toyota

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrc2017 View Post
    I didn't say he did want Ogiera at Toyota. I feel his only hope of Latvala staying, is Ogier doesn't go to Toyota
    so why you dont agree with my post?
    for same reason he didnt want Tanak to Toyota
    Jouhki can say whatever because there are money for him involved.

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    Ogier with Makinen= not an easy co operation imho.And of course he will not ask less from Tanak

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    Jouhki family is said to be one of the richest in Finland, same goes to many of the companies that he has managed to get support for Finnish rally drivers careers nowadays. For Jouhki it is probably not just purely about ROI, but also much about pro Finnish rally drivers vs. foreign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    so why you dont agree with my post?
    for same reason he didnt want Tanak to Toyota
    Jouhki can say whatever because there are money for him involved.
    Because, Latvala is not a replacement for a no1 driver. Weather Tanak went or not, Toyota are now chasing Ogier. May point is.. Situation doesn't chance for Latvala if it were Tanak or Ogier at Toyota.

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