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    Quote Originally Posted by wrc2017 View Post
    imagine ogier has committed to right hand gate'as he almost did, and hit gate with left wheel, instead or right.. and continued with broken power steering. would citroen still have complained. Citroen's only focus was to gain road position of day 3.. and the FIA obliged.
    If Ogier hadnt damaged his steering going the correct way at the last second, I doubt he would've made anything of the mistake by the others...

    But he was 'penalised' by broken PAS and the others werent even though they went the wrong way.
    #M-SPORTER

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    sordo just said meeke will still start behind sordo and ogier, becuase the road order was published before the penalty was issued... interesting

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    I was also reminded of this.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxwGdup6L6U&t=10m25s

    Yes it's Safari, but still modern era WRC. Difference being, apparently the roadbook in that case had two options on which route to take, so all ok. I remember cases from past with huge shortcuts that are more like blatant cheating than just improvising a little bit. Delecour in 1994 Monte Carlo comes to mind when he cut a huge field and gained something like 20-30 seconds, according to Kankkunen. I don't think he was carrying an onboard camera in that rally. Ironically, karma bit Delecour and he got disqualified that year for an apparently accidental shortcut in the RAC. Also remember from the last day of Finland 2013 when Neuville and Östberg were making big shortcuts across some grass field in front of the TV cameras. No penalties, but I think they were told not to do it on the second run. Where do you draw the line?

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    haha Meeke comment about gate penalty - was perfect ))))

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    There seems to be less discussion of road order in this rally. Is it making less difference than usual?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KKS View Post
    haha Meeke comment about gate penalty - was perfect ))))
    give us a link

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    give us a link
    he said ogier's indecisiveness cost him a lot more than his 10s penalty..

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    That's a pretty accurate statement from Meeke

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrc2017 View Post
    Citroen's only focus was to gain road position of day 3.. and the FIA obliged.
    This penalty doesn't alter the road order. Ogier will start before Meeke.

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    virtual standings at the moment

    Neuville 107
    Ogier 95
    Tänak 79
    Meeke 52
    Evans 43
    Mikkelsen 30

    Last year after Argentina

    Neuville 100
    Ogier 90
    Tänak 72

    basically same
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