Citroen WRT

**AnttiL** · 12th March 2019, 18:16

https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...-future-stance

**denkimi** · 12th March 2019, 18:25

Originally Posted by dimviii

there are differences.Plenty of times,not small ones.

like what? i have not much technical knowledge about shocks, but i can't think of anything that would make them behave in a way that the others can't copy.

**Mirek** · 12th March 2019, 18:59

Originally Posted by denkimi

like what? i have not much technical knowledge about shocks, but i can't think of anything that would make them behave in a way that the others can't copy.

One hint. If you copy others you are always like a railway carriage in the train. You can do what you want but you will never come to the railway station ahead of the engine.

**br21** · 12th March 2019, 19:00

Ogier used ZF in Fiesta on gravel also, now (2019) it's only ZF who delivers dampers for Fiesta WRC, both gravel and tarmac.
Citroen tested different dampers in their C3 on tests before the season, seems Reiger fits them best. And it can be because of many reasons, as every top damper brand is different than the other, but they all are top. No sense to go into too many details here.

**dimviii** · 12th March 2019, 19:06

Originally Posted by denkimi

like what? i have not much technical knowledge about shocks, but i can't think of anything that would make them behave in a way that the others can't copy.

of course they can behave different at extreme conditions/temps/very rough gravel etc.
Another point is how sensitive are, when you change settings/clicks

**Rallyper** · 12th March 2019, 19:29

Another point is how driver feels for the setup or the cars behaviour. His experience etz. There´s not one answer to which setup suits drivers best. Not even brand on suspension...

**AnttiL** · 12th March 2019, 20:40

It's worth changing from damper company A to B if the driver knows how the B dampers work instead of having to test all 50 models from A.

**Mirek** · 12th March 2019, 20:44

Originally Posted by AnttiL

It's worth changing from damper company A to B if the driver knows how the B dampers work instead of having to test all 50 models from A.

Changing dampers may lead to much more radical change in the whole car setup. Each case is different and IMHO there is no such golden rule.

**AnttiL** · 12th March 2019, 21:21

Originally Posted by Mirek

Changing dampers may lead to much more radical change in the whole car setup. Each case is different and IMHO there is no such golden rule.

Yeah I know, but if the driver is facing a new car and 50 dampers he doesn't know or a new car and 50 dampers he knows, the latter solution seems more safe...

**AMSS** · 13th March 2019, 08:26

Originally Posted by br21

Ogier used ZF in Fiesta on gravel also, now (2019) it's only ZF who delivers dampers for Fiesta WRC, both gravel and tarmac.
Citroen tested different dampers in their C3 on tests before the season, seems Reiger fits them best. And it can be because of many reasons, as every top damper brand is different than the other, but they all are top. No sense to go into too many details here.

Will the new R5 Fiesta be on what dampers?