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    Quote Originally Posted by KKS View Post
    But they make clear air and nature in places where they live.
    Yeah, they achieve that by selling the shit to the others. That's quite a hypocrisy for me. But ok...

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    For example: we have 100 000 cars that produce 10 000kg of CO2 (irrelevant values, just for example) and 100% of that CO2 pollutes the air in city where lives 3 000 000 people.
    PowerPlant that burn coal for electricity have 50-70kms range for polluted air where lives 50 000 people, produce same 10 000kg of CO2 and powers same 100 000 cars. So air and ecology in a city was much better with using electric cars.
    You're mixing stuff. CO2 is not what causes problems in the cities. That is SOx, NOx and dust particles. CO2 causes issues with the atmosphere and its quantity is related directly to the fuel consumption. That means that the most simple way how to quickly reduce CO2 emissions right now is not to go electric (because that will take ages due to non-existing mass infrastructure) but to simply limit the maximum weight of the cars.

    Currently the cities are flooded with huge overweight SUVs (who the hell needs something like GL or Q7 and for what?). Those hypocrites tell you how they think about environment and how they work on electrification but in the same time they produce more and more SUVs which produce 2-4x more emissions than a common small city car.

    Of course electrification would help cities but most of the European cities have electric networks half a century old and it's impossible to just connect hundreds of thousands of cars to it. There are things which can be done right now, not in ten or twenty years. Less SUVs, less old cars with removed particle filters, less bribery at technical checks, better public transport etc. can help a lot more at the very moment.

    And you know what would help the most? To limit useless transport of things (including tourism of course). The global economy brought us to the state where we have in every single moment around 200 thousand commercial ariliners in the air, millions of trucks on the roads and thousands of ships on the seas. Most of that what they transport can be produced locally but that would not bring those billions to the few people driving the whole circus who tell you how you shall think about the nature and stuff.

    Not even speaking about absurd overproduction of everything. We buy loads of non-necessary stuff just to be cool. The things are designed to brake down after two years so that we need to buy new ones. All of that has to be produced somehow and from something. Electric cars is not what will bring us salvation because those are only another part of this craziness. The only thing which can bring a real change is a change of thinking - and that will not come.

    Sorry for a long post but this is why this "let's go electric and everything will be fine" is nothing more than a bullshit for me.
    Last edited by Mirek; 9th March 2019 at 20:30.
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