Rally Discussion and Bar Talk Thread

[Allez Andruet]

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- be careful Esapekka, that Budar guy isn't the nicest of team managers.
- wait till you meet the duo of Mäkinen and Miettinen, Kris. Just wait.

[KiwiWRCfan]

Is it too soon for entries in the 2019 N.O.T. photos with Autumn colors award ? https://scontent.fakl4-1.fna.fbcdn.n...12&oe=5CB70223

[dimviii]

Hyundai Motorsport

#10YearChallenge Have @SebastienLoeb & @DanosElena changed much?�� #WRC #HMSGOfficial

[Rallyper]

Now, I give a couple of beers for the person who fixes the points in Pickems...

[AnttiL]

Where's the beer?

[NickRally]

This night 36 years ago, we had the last 2wd winner of the Monte and if I remember correctly, the conditions were not dissimilar to this year's edition, so I was thinking how cool it would be if we had less restrictive R-GT class with vehicles capable of being on the pace of the WRC cars, even if they were not eligible for overall honours.

[dupanton]

This night 36 years ago, we had the last 2wd winner of the Monte and if I remember correctly, the conditions were not dissimilar to this year's edition, so I was thinking how cool it would be if we had less restrictive R-GT class with vehicles capable of being on the pace of the WRC cars, even if they were not eligible for overall honours.

Impossible. in Belgium and France the cars aren't very limited, but can't compete with the top R5 cars. So competing with WRC is impossible.

[Mirek]

Impossible. in Belgium and France the cars aren't very limited, but can't compete with the top R5 cars. So competing with WRC is impossible.

The problem with that idea is that those 2WD gr.B Lancias 037 were not semi-production GTs. They were pure purpose-built race cars. In this point of view F2 kit cars were closer to them them than the current heavy GTs.

Also in that time the 4WD cars were young and suffered from issues which have long been overcome such as massive understeering or no chance to use handbrake turns on asphalt.

For sure it would be possible to win certain asphalt events with 2WD car if suitable rules are created but what you'll get would be nothing close to the production GT but rather some crazy prototype which would cost even more than WRC.

[AnttiL]

Dream on

It's interesting comparing the Monte 1983 and 1984 results. In 1983 Röhrl won with Lancia, Audis got only 4 stage wins. Then in 1984 Audis took a 1-2-3 and Lancia had only two stage wins and the best RWD car was 24 minutes off the winner.

To develop your idea further, maybe some RWD or FWD cars could be made competitible with the new R4 cars? So we could have something like the early Group A where 4WD cars are a bit underpowered and overweight, but the 2WD cars have less grip.

[Mirek]

This night 36 years ago, we had the last 2wd winner of the Monte and if I remember correctly, the conditions were not dissimilar to this year's edition, so I was thinking how cool it would be if we had less restrictive R-GT class with vehicles capable of being on the pace of the WRC cars, even if they were not eligible for overall honours.

If I am not mistaken this photo is taken on stage St. Pierreville - Antraigues at the village St. Julien du Gua. This stage isn't being run anymore. I remember I visited it in 2010 and 2011 IRC editions when it was 45 km long (Mikkelsen crashed there once just after the start I think)...