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24th December 2018, 17:00 #1881
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Loeb's website:
"With Hyundai, my first mission will be to help them get the constructors title and support Thierry Neuville, the number 1 driver. The team's speech is clear and I'm fine with it.
I willingly accept this position number 2 or 3 and ride with less pressure, to please me, and in order to bring them points when I'm starting a rally.
This does not mean that I lost my soul as a competitor. Once the helmet on the head, I would give everything to make the best possible result, as I have always done, but the approach is different."
So he is happy to support Hyundai & Neuville, then I see no reason why he wouldn't have done the same for Citroen/Ogier.
The only reason was they wouldn't pay for a third car.Last edited by Fast Eddie WRC; 24th December 2018 at 17:04.
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26th December 2018, 00:13 #1882
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I find it difficult to believe sponsorship could not have been found for a third citroen for Loeb (share Ostberg/ Breen), especially when the amount of sponsorship is thrown at formula one back runners who only get limited coverage when they crash, power unit blows up, passed by a front runner etc.
Did citroen just not want to run a third car in different livery or is ogier costing them that much extra as a 3rd car?
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26th December 2018, 00:53 #1883
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26th December 2018, 06:59 #1884
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27th December 2018, 11:48 #1885
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27th December 2018, 12:28 #1886
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ku ois neljä pyörää ku vetäis ni ois vähän eri sekunnit kyllä pätkillä, sen mä takaan
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27th December 2018, 17:51 #1887
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The only reason was they wouldn't pay for a third car.[/QUOTE]
Did you know Sebastien Loeb was the highest paid employee in the PSA group? (I'm not saying for the duration of his time there, but for a certain period of time he was).
He is one of France's greatest sportsman and he will generate an unrivalled amount of publicity for any team he drives for.
When you say Citroen wouldn't pay for a third car, have you considered why? Please don't say it is financial, because it most certainly isn't. They have chosen not to run him.
Let's see what happens the first time he's leading Neuville.... I really don't think he will just roll over and let him past.
Those words on his website are all nice and fluffy, but they may not mean much at all when the flag drops.
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27th December 2018, 18:46 #1888
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With Le Maestro's CV, that certainly doesn't come as a surprise. I bet Neuville is making more than most - if not all - of Hyundai's board members.
Unless he's asked (you just don't give orders to a 9-time champ, do you?) to do so... And that's a big ask for Penasse and Nandan to proceed with. Although I have to say, that no matter how brilliant Loeb's 2018 in WRC was, I don't think we'll see him master Neuville in a Hyundai anytime soon. I'd be more than happy to be wrong with that prediction thoughku ois neljä pyörää ku vetäis ni ois vähän eri sekunnit kyllä pätkillä, sen mä takaan
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27th December 2018, 19:26 #1889
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When CC first mooted the Loeb-to-Hyundai idea, he said another good reason was that it wouldnt cost that much. He didnt believe he commanded a huge salary.
Also, if Citroen just chose not to run Loeb, why arent they running a third factory car with another driver ?
It's money.
Remember they have only had two cars in the last two seasons. They even struggled to pay for proper testing for some events like GB..Last edited by Fast Eddie WRC; 27th December 2018 at 19:35.
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27th December 2018, 20:05 #1890
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a) I really can’t bring myself to take into account Colin Clarke’s guess work when it comes to salaries.
b)... and I appreciate this is my guess work, but Loeb the brand brings enough exposure to make it worthwhile for Citroen financially.
c) who on earth else would they put in a car for six events, that could, as he could, win most of them?
The problem isn’t cash, it’s that they would look stupid if he beat Ogier and took valuable points off his WDC campain.
Remember Ogier’s noises about guest drivers and how much of a bad idea they now are, just before PSA dropped Loeb? No coincidence.
And to be fair, I don’t blame them.Last edited by T16; 27th December 2018 at 20:12.
Solberg to Toyota would surprise me a lot, what would happen to Pajari in that case?
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