New R4 Car - Think Tank

[br21]

In some countries (Finland, Poland) only Protos with Evo or Subaru parts allowed. Plus I don't think any modern 4wd system will be really useful in proper rally car. That's also why N4 died, as not anymore any suitable cars for it...
I know properly rebuild evo parts are not bad, but then you need to compare prices with used R5 cars, not with new ones. And still for example used Sadev/Xtrac/Ricardo rear diff will be much better condition than used RS evo diff with basically not known mileage... And this is not a big problem on gravel, but with powerful cars on tarmac RS rear diffs for example are weak and not easy to get good condition one.

[Rally Power]

But problem with this project is that manufacturers are not interested in it. And Skoda was one of the teams which were fighting against R4 as they dont want that some private build cars will start under their brand...

The currently rally involved manus aren't interested, but what about all the others? Probably most of them won't get into R4 directly, but they can still allow their importers to start a program locally, competing or promoting monotype cups, wich would be great.

[mArvAlcao17]

The currently rally involved manus aren't interested, but what about all the others? Probably most of them won't get into R4 directly, but they can still allow their importers to start a program locally, competing or promoting monotype cups, wich would be great.

I've said before that R4s could attract rather unknown manufacturers.

[Sulland]

I've said before that R4s could attract rather unknown manufacturers.

99% of those watcing will not know the difference. If it looks like a Opel, for them it is an Opel.
The rest are details.

[Mirek]

The currently rally involved manus aren't interested, but what about all the others? Probably most of them won't get into R4 directly, but they can still allow their importers to start a program locally, competing or promoting monotype cups, wich would be great.

Importers yes, but manufacturers hardly.

[Rally Power]

I've said before that R4s could attract rather unknown manufacturers.

Yep, you said it before, I said it before and many others said it before, some even when R4 was just a concept; now let’s all hope that the FIA and Oreca will manage to promote R4 among manus, not only to get unknown manus to the sport but also to bring back known manus that have quit rally. Fingers crossed.

Importers yes, but manufacturers hardly.

Agree, in Europe and South America cases, but in Asia, as we’ve been talking, local manus could get into R4 directly. Time will tell.

[Sulland]

Are ewrc-results.com planning to make a database part for R4?

[Mirek]

How do You want to realistically track cars which are not being build by the factory? You can not just physically go to every event and check it personally (quite often You would not be allowed to do so anyway).

Even S2000/R5/WRC databses aren't flawless. Plenty of times it's virtually impossible to track which car is which when teams have more of them and swap number plates etc.

[Andre Oliveira]

It is possible. By kit R4 number. And realistic... don’t wait many cars. Not the 282 Fiesta R5 or 260 Fabia R5... Wait for more info. Stay with us

[Mirek]

Good luck with tracking such cars in South America or on some remote islands.

I am sure You know that even the current ewrc database has many mistakes in it.