New R4 Car - Think Tank

[Rally Power]

Yep, nice show from Pryce and brave effort from ASM Motorsport to make the R4 rally debut, especially once Oreca strangely never mind to do it (the kit is homologated since July). Hopefully other teams will soon follow ASM example, proving R4 can be a valid class.

[Mirek]

Actually one of the issues with R4 is that it's not a class. It runs normally in RC2 together wih R5 and N4.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

R4 is a nice idea but in reality an R5 is the car to have.

I dont see many buyers for the kit to have their own R4, but maybe people hiring a ready-made R4 car for some semi-competitive, affordable, 4WD fun.

[Mirek]

I dont see many buyers for the kit to have their own R4, but maybe people hiring a ready-made R4 car for some semi-competitive, affordable, 4WD fun.

Our overseas members wrote here some time a go that due to taxes it's often extremely expensive to bring an R5 car into their countries while building their own R4 using a works kit can give them competitive FIA-eligible car which is much cheaper than the R5. In Europe it's different of course as here we have tons of used R5 available.

[Sulland]

Where in the world does Toyota sell the Etios model?

[Jarek Z]

Toyota Etios R4 in action

[Jarek Z]

A 6-minute video from Rally Ciudad de Granada by WRCantabria can be found at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMAl2u2WJSk

Warning - the level of driving doesn't seem to be very high.

[Rally Power]

Actually one of the issues with R4 is that it's not a class. It runs normally in RC2 together wih R5 and N4.

Hopefully, 'that' class issue will soon be fixed.

[steve.mandzij]

Where in the world does Toyota sell the Etios model?

South America, and if I'm not mistaken India and South Africa too. Here in Argentina it's huge.

[mArvAlcao17]

Our overseas members wrote here some time a go that due to taxes it's often extremely expensive to bring an R5 car into their countries while building their own R4 using a works kit can give them competitive FIA-eligible car which is much cheaper than the R5. In Europe it's different of course as here we have tons of used R5 available.

I am the one of them. Yes, it's expensive to buy a R5 car, but R4 isn't a good option either since there are lack of reference and we have to use Oreca-supplied parts like engine, gearbox, etc. While things like AP4 has many references in Australia & NZ, and lot of options avaliable

Where in the world does Toyota sell the Etios model?

Indonesia sell it as well (as Etios Valco). It was quite good, but the sales are in decline because it's around 4-5 y.o without major change/facelift