Rally Discussion and Bar Talk Thread

[dupanton]

Neuville has been fast and reliable with all his co-pilots. He's an example of the opposite of what you're trying to prove.

If you compare his 2010 season with Klinger and his 2011 season with Gilsoul, there is a big difference, both in speed and reliability. If course, he had more experience too, but I do think he really started to impress when he started driving with Gilsoul.

[electroliquid]

Co-drivers contribute maybe a 20% of the overall speed....
co drivers are nothing compared to the drivers when actual results are compared...

In therms of pure speed it might be even less, but those few percents actually make difference between good result and no result at all.

[KiwiWRCfan]

RallyFan - a glass of Champagne for everyone please
Barman - something special to celebrate ?
RallyFan - Champagne for a Champagne memory
Barman - Explain, I do not understand
Rallfan - 20 years ago today Seb Loeb & Daniel Elena finished their first event together. It was the 1998 Rallye Epernay Vins de Champagne 1998. They won their class. So Champagne to celebrate a class act winning their class in Champagne
Barman - A vote santé

The barman then sets a short video playing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-zK...=youtu.be&t=92

[Rallyper]

You cannot put a percentage on what they contribute, their work isn't measurable (unless they make a mistake). But for example we have seen a big impact with Järveoja on Tänak, who wasn't constant and reliable, now he's one of the most reliable drivers in the championship. For Neuville there was a turning point in his career when he started working with Nicolas Gilsoul, Neuville would likely not be in the WRC now without Gilsoul. If codrivers were so unimportant as you say, there would be far more switches I think. Recently there are some drivers in WRC who switched codrivers, but most were already very reliable drivers with a lot of experience (Sordo, Ostberg, Mikkelsen).

However putting numbers on a certain answer makes for the receiver of the message easier to understand and from the giver of answer to tell what he means. Nothing wrong with that in this case either.
I would say 20% is maybe too much.
The discussion overall I find it a bit ridiculous.

Barman! Beer for everyone. It´s on me.

[dimviii]

https://www.autoclassics.com/posts/r...iasion-led-wrc

[danon]

[dimviii]

a$$hole of the century

https://twitter.com/WorldRallyCAM/st...90419053080576

[AnttiL]

Rally Catalunya maps for 1997 onwards at www.rally-maps.com

https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-de-Espa%C3%B1a-1997

[N.O.T]

a$$hole of the century

https://twitter.com/WorldRallyCAM/st...90419053080576

its argentina... not much different than animals.

[Co-driven]

its argentina... not much different than animals.

Small correction: that's not Argentina, that was in Paraguay.