2018 news and results

**Jarek Z** · 24th January 2018, 12:49

Is this the first time when FIA listens to the drivers?

"Responding to calls from drivers and teams, FIA European Rally Championship promoter Eurosport Events worked with governing body the FIA to modify the regulations concerning scoring opportunities in the ERC2 category (...)

Previously drivers could count their best six scores from a possible eight. But feedback from competitors concluded that by allowing drivers to include their best four scores only would lessen costs, reduce the time commitment and ultimately make ERC2 more accessible to more drivers."

More at https://www.fiaerc.com/new-rules-lea...e-erc2-action/

**PLuto** · 24th January 2018, 12:53

Originally Posted by Jarek Z

Is this the first time when FIA listens to the drivers?

"Responding to calls from drivers and teams, FIA European Rally Championship promoter Eurosport Events worked with governing body the FIA to modify the regulations concerning scoring opportunities in the ERC2 category (...)

Previously drivers could count their best six scores from a possible eight. But feedback from competitors concluded that by allowing drivers to include their best four scores only would lessen costs, reduce the time commitment and ultimately make ERC2 more accessible to more drivers."

More at https://www.fiaerc.com/new-rules-lea...e-erc2-action/

No, it is not first time. Every year there is discussion between drivers, Eurosport and FIA. Unfortunatelly, this is only one thing which was approved by FIA, more other not...

**Mirek** · 24th January 2018, 12:55

ERC2 is dead anyway just like gr.N cars. It won't help it to become less useless than it is now. Honestly I have no idea why they keep holding a championship for gr.N cars anymore.

**electroliquid** · 24th January 2018, 13:23

Originally Posted by Mirek

ERC2 is dead anyway just like gr.N cars. It won't help it to become less useless than it is now. Honestly I have no idea why they keep holding a championship for gr.N cars anymore.

Yes, it's barely alive, but it isn't that ERC events are overcrowded, additional cup/class is additional crews, even it's one or two of them. It's good for locals, they have chance participate with old cars, and if they reach finish, they get award. I can't see anything bad about it. Don't remember if new R4 cars fit into ERC2 or should be in ERC?

**PLuto** · 24th January 2018, 14:08

Originally Posted by electroliquid

Yes, it's barely alive, but it isn't that ERC events are overcrowded, additional cup/class is additional crews, even it's one or two of them. It's good for locals, they have chance participate with old cars, and if they reach finish, they get award. I can't see anything bad about it. Don't remember if new R4 cars fit into ERC2 or should be in ERC?

That was original idea that R4 cars should replace group N cars in ERC2 (or at least from beginning they will start together). But by big surprise for everyone, FIA didnt do it...

**Sulland** · 24th January 2018, 14:09

R4 should imo be doing ERC2.

Just to separate them from the start.

Then you will get logic, with ERC topclass R5, being one below WRC.

In 2019 WRC, R4 should be the next WRC3 level, and R2 being JWRC.

Level	WRC	Regional
1	WRCar	R5
2	R5	R4
3	R4	R2
4	R2

**PLuto** · 25th January 2018, 12:20

Originally Posted by Sulland

R4 should imo be doing ERC2.

Just to separate them from the start.

Then you will get logic, with ERC topclass R5, being one below WRC.

In 2019 WRC, R4 should be the next WRC3 level, and R2 being JWRC.

Level	WRC	Regional
1	WRCar	R5
2	R5	R4
3	R4	R2
4	R2

That was original plan. But you know, FIA...

**Mirek** · 25th January 2018, 13:39

Originally Posted by electroliquid

Yes, it's barely alive, but it isn't that ERC events are overcrowded, additional cup/class is additional crews, even it's one or two of them. It's good for locals, they have chance participate with old cars, and if they reach finish, they get award. I can't see anything bad about it. Don't remember if new R4 cars fit into ERC2 or should be in ERC?

Do You agree that a cup with 3 regulars (nobody else drove more than even 1 event) is not worth a championship title?

**electroliquid** · 25th January 2018, 13:53

I agree about championship - production cup/trophy should be enough.

**PLuto** · 25th January 2018, 15:02

It doesnt matter if you call it championship or cup. This was platform to allow drivers with production cars to have a chance to fight for some title. But as it looks like (not only now, but also in the past), Mitsubishi and Subaru drivers prefered to be heroes only at home. But allowing R4 cars there (and I was asking also for adding RGT cars) should make it more popular.