New R4 Car - Think Tank

[pantealex]

Yep. There’s no problem for R4 to be integrated in RC2. At any time series organizers can promote specific title for them, like it has been done with Gr. N over the years.

and national series can have different classes, like in Finland where we have 2 championship classes for 4wd cars.

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/nOqKAGeDbp8

[Mirek]

Stéphane Sarrazin with Etios R4 on Rallye du Var: http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=19381

[Mirek]

https://youtu.be/nOqKAGeDbp8

To me it looks like he was only cruising in the video.

[mArvAlcao17]

R4 analysis coming soon from David Evans

https://twitter.com/davidevansrally/...81276569903105

[Sulland]

How does the orderbook for kit look for Oreca?
Is it starting to fill, or is it still empty?

[Andre Oliveira]

For me, the most important thing of those cars (R4, N5, Proto,...) is the manufacturer side. A Ford with PSA engine? Where is the intelectual and comercial make ownership. When (if) a manufacter go to law to protest royalties... the case will be ugly. Those cars are cheap cause used hours and €€€ of research of that manufacters. I am against those travesty cars. All makes have comercial deals but after that.... what the point to PSA have winning car with Ford taking the goods? Or Ford having R5 and someone run one cheaper and low performer travesty Ford?

[Rally Power]

For me, the most important thing of those cars (R4, N5, Proto,...) is the manufacturer side. A Ford with PSA engine? Where is the intelectual and comercial make ownership. When (if) a manufacter go to law to protest royalties... the case will be ugly. Those cars are cheap cause used hours and €€€ of research of that manufacters. I am against those travesty cars. All makes have comercial deals but after that.... what the point to PSA have winning car with Ford taking the goods? Or Ford having R5 and someone run one cheaper and low performer travesty Ford?

Even in the car business is not rare to have manus getting engines or other main components from other manus and surely Oreca was authorized by PSA to tune EP’s engines and use them in R4.

Silhouette and mandatory kit categories are a common practice in motorsport and R5’s already use several common parts. Practical benefits from using a universal kit are huge and no one can deny there’s room for a light 4wd rally category in national or regional series.

The choice for a single supplier can still be questioned, but R4 looks to be a sensible move for the development of the sport; it makes rally brands and models field wider and provides a cheaper complement to current R5 cars.

Btw, most of drivers invited to test the car after Var rally were delighted; they say it feels like a small R5!

[mArvAlcao17]

For me, the most important thing of those cars (R4, N5, Proto,...) is the manufacturer side. A Ford with PSA engine? Where is the intelectual and comercial make ownership. When (if) a manufacter go to law to protest royalties... the case will be ugly. Those cars are cheap cause used hours and €€€ of research of that manufacters. I am against those travesty cars. All makes have comercial deals but after that.... what the point to PSA have winning car with Ford taking the goods? Or Ford having R5 and someone run one cheaper and low performer travesty Ford?

The manufacturers thing are already in R5, so let the car dealers/etc. take over that.

[RICARDO75]

Lukyanuk test with Suzuki Swift R+ (N5) with positive coments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvYf...em-uploademail