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    Quote Originally Posted by wrc2017 View Post
    Isn't Tanak supposed to be the new Vatanen.. the fastest man? Meeke's fastest time on Ouninpohja by 14s was all road position. Your questioning his speed now. OK, got it..

    You obviously don't know to much about Rally GB. When the wet slate surface turns polished. you cant get mechanical grip, on top of that, we all know what happens after Poland when the car has no grip.
    I'll repeat myself again. Meeke has not won a rally where he didn't have clear road position advantage, that's just how it is. It is entirely funny when numerous people call him fastest man in WRC based on these gravel rallies and the few stages between crashes here and there. Also it's interesting when you bring out how slippery wet gravel gets for late starters when in rally Poland all 3 Citroen drivers had huge issues on Friday because of that. You even point that out.... and right in next chapter you go on to criticize how the drivers in Poland did. So did they do epic in spite of bad car or fail miserably? Meeke's performance in GB last year was in DS3 so don't get what connection it has with C3 issues in wet.



    If he cant get a result on his best rally, explains the decision not to go to Finland, i guess.


    Are you taking the mick now? Stop trying to polish a turd. It was a just short of disaster. Any of those offs could have resulting him in flipping onto his roof and bending the cage. And his car had all the upgrades? Gone is any chance of Citroen attracting another top line driver. So Lefevbre was the target, here is me thinking, it was at least a podium.
    1. off course, that was the point, when Finland is not one of his best rallies and he didn't do all that good in Poland, why go to Finland. Wrote that 3 posts ago in plain text.

    2. 3 of the 4 offs were "safe" much in the same way as those by Tanak(field on 2nd day), Ogier (field on 3rd day).. and much safer than Neuville's sideways jump that resulted in the puncture. Also on Sunday he could have tried to make the turn like Tanak and Sunninen and hope for the best, instead he chose to go straight along the road for no risk. The first one could have ended in same retirement like Lappi had yes.
    That said today drivers watch every stage on vid. numerous times. With only a few stages re-run each day they know just about every corner. So it's totally not coincidence where some offs happen. Mikkelsen said it himself how he was reviewing that one stage where he went off numerous times before. Same for Ogier on the field in Monte. They know it's safer to push so they push a bit extra.

    Gone is any chance of Citroen attracting another top line driver

    Yes that's 100% true, after Sardinia there might have been doubts, after Poland it's very unlikely others are interested until Citroen show stable good results in at least 2 rallies in a row. (again explains why Mikkelsen probably wasn't interested in Finland)

    I didn't write anywhere that Lefevbre was the target. I wrote how Mikkelsen did and that it was not good, but not terribly bad either (and certainly massive improvement over Sardinia). Seems like you are seeing things that just aren't written.
    On the other hand there are some facts that are quite funny:
    1. First time Citroen had 2 cars in top 10 (in 8th rally of the season!!!)
    2. Best Citroen PowerStage result so far comes from a replacement driver in his 2nd rally in the car, on wet, with setup made during the rally. (yes, not like every driver was competing it, but that's how it is on most powerstages).

    One or multiple parts of the Citroen package (team, car, drivers) have issues. You seem to think it's only the cars/engineer's fault, I don't think the reality is that simple.
    Still a bit of a shame as it would be nice to have 4 equal teams. On the other hand on a bit selfish note, it's better than Citroen dominating VW-style.
    Last edited by mknight; 7th July 2017 at 23:24.

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