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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQj7zyLtHog
    As I have mentioned during the Swedish Rally, the C3 has exactly the same quirk as the C4.Lifting up the front under acceleration and during jumps.Its probably a case of the French thinking that because that thing worked back then, why won't it now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Yes.

    If you watch onboard from same spot Neuville's car behaves very much the same, even though he brakes down a little bit. Meeke is almost flat-out. Ogier's doesn't really lift cause he brakes before the dip and adjusts the line slightly.

    Meeke's first roll is in many ways the same. His, Breen's and Neuville's and a few other cars start flying, Latvala and Sordo's don't cause they avoid it.

    So if C3 is "bad" then I20 is "bad" in very much the same way and just won the rally.
    You know nothing about internal problems Citroen having with the C3. Thats a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Only saying what I see and the lack of comment since from team & driver speaks volumes..
    "We have the capacity to achieve our target, i.e. win the rally", commented Yves Matton, Citroën Racing Team Principal. "Kris recorded a series of fastest and second fastest times, which illustrates that the C3 WRC has the necessary pace. Similarly, Craig's times on Sunday's leg – right in the middle of the fight for the overall win – provide further confirmation of this. And yet, we haven't managed to turn that pace into a good result here. Since the start of the season, we've paid a very heavy price each time there have been obstacles in our path. We are going to keep working hard and not give up, because we are convinced that our efforts will eventually start paying off. Our approach will remain aggressive: rather than aiming for a result in the World Championship, we want to win rallies and that means a certain level of risk-taking."

    Among the few pleasing aspects of the weekend, the great job done by the mechanics came top of the list. The repairs done to Kris Meeke's C3 WRC after his off on Friday will go down as one of the great feats of the Red Army's technical team. "Our mechanics have undoubtedly formed the best rally team for the last fifteen years," emphasised Yves Matton. "They worked tirelessly to repair the car, which was obviously back in perfect condition since Kris scored two stage wins on Saturday. So it's sad that their commitment and hard work weren't more generously rewarded. It's always a shame to lose a car that has restarted under Rally2 rules to another off."


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    Is that an automatic translation or does Citroen really call it's mechanics the Red Army?
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    Quote Originally Posted by macebig View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQj7zyLtHog
    As I have mentioned during the Swedish Rally, the C3 has exactly the same quirk as the C4.Lifting up the front under acceleration and during jumps.Its probably a case of the French thinking that because that thing worked back then, why won't it now?
    Maybe the car doesn't have enough downforce on the front end. Every other manufacturer chooses a more box design wheel arch, kind of reminiscent of group b. Citroen started out that way with the c3 but changed wheel arch design later in development. All other cars look more aero aggressive, Citroen looks to have good aero at the rear but not so much at front, maybe making the car unstable over bumps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrc2017 View Post
    You know nothing about internal problems Citroen having with the C3. Thats a fact.
    That's true, never claimed otherwise.

    What is also a fact is that on the two bumps it behaves similarly to I20. The small differences can be down to the different observed speed, braking and/or setup. It's not like the car behaves entirely different.

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    i havent watched the onboards yet but someone in estonian forum said that Tänak took the same line as Meeke in SS2 but was 17km/h slower there, perhaps this is the difference between crashing and not? im just guessing not a specialist
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    Words from Matton (eventually) are less than convincing. Anything yet from Meeke ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Words from Matton (eventually) are less than convincing. Anything yet from Meeke ?
    I think it's clear it was a serious accident and both Kris and Paul had their bell rung a bit. Lucky boys. Would guess they've been having medical checks. Maybe an overnight in hospital. Not sure - https://www.instagram.com/p/BTj4k7Yl...rismeeke&hl=en

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