Rally Sweden 2017

[denkimi]

the problem is not the speed of the cars, as the new ones really aren't that much faster than the old ones. its just the stage itself.

average speed on Knon:
tanak: 137.8 km/h
breen: 135.2 km/h
Lefebvre: 129.3 km/h
Tidemand: 128.1 km/h

[N.O.T]

the problem is not the speed of the cars, as the new ones really aren't that much faster than the old ones. its just the stage itself.

average speed on Knon:
tanak: 137.8 km/h
breen: 135.2 km/h
Lefebvre: 129.3 km/h
Tidemand: 128.1 km/h

10 km/hr in average speed is huge....

[lnvs]

Rumors on another forum that drivers say the cars are too wide for the narrow parts of the stage. Not seen any evidance of that myself yet.

Steve (from Wales)

I watched full stage from wrc+ and that is just bs. There is no narrow places.

Plenty of "flat maybe" type of corners in +160km/h. Even Tidemand with R5 had 128.1 avg speed. I don't know who thought this would be suitable stage for WRC, maybe Per Eklund with Saab 96?

[Andre Oliveira]

Vargasen 2 also cancelled?

Sorry my bad. Time zone tricked me.

[Mirek]

The average speed itself says nothing. In 2016 Barum we had a stage with 125 average (R5) which sure isn't even close in danger to famous Pindula where the average was 114. The main reason is that the first one had one junction/hairpin on 14 km.

There are even faster stages in Ypres where average speed is bellow 110 just because there is huge number of square junctions which make the roads looking way slower then they are.

To this case... They made the new cars faster so it's beyond me how can they be surprised that the cars actually go fast...

[dimviii]

[stefanvv]

To this case... They made the new cars faster so it's beyond me how can they be surprised that the cars actually go fast...

Seems caught unprepared indeed. Isn't their job to inspect each stage before the rally and make some adjustments if necessary?

[A FONDO]

RIDICULOUS DECISION. Why do 10 kmh guarantee accidents?!?! This is technical progress, of course the cars must become faster and faster. First rallies in french mountains a century ago, avg speeds were probably 50-60kmh then rose to 70-80, should they frozen the development back then until today!??!?! I am sick of careerists whose only goal is to avoid the risk of getting responsible.

[Krigen]

The avarage speed is not what make it dangerous, it`s the fast parts. Stages with slower avarage could have well as fast and even faster parts, just that it also haven more slower/twistier parts as well, or even the ugly heyball chicane`s. Aaah just politics fro FIA this.

[Krigen]

The average speed itself says nothing. In 2016 Barum we had a stage with 125 average (R5) which sure isn't even close in danger to famous Pindula where the average was 114. The main reason is that the first one had one junction/hairpin on 14 km.

There are even faster stages in Ypres where average speed is bellow 110 just because there is huge number of square junctions which make the roads looking way slower then they are.

To this case... They made the new cars faster so it's beyond me how can they be surprised that the cars actually go fast...

Agreed