[WRC] News & Rumours (part V) 2017

[Tarmop]

Well, if one tells that we`re done here, won`t participate in any way, then says that ok, we could rent 2016 cars with the whole package to all who can pay for it (fine) and then a few weeks later they want to participate the whole season with 2 cars and Qatar sponsorship....even better but thenfail a talk about letting one car compete a few times. It`s inappropriate for a BIG German company like VAG (ok, with big money issues). If you said no you should meen it and do it properly (no one can say anything about 2018 full season return).

[cali]

It is clear that Citroen and Hyundai don't want more competition.
Why? Because the are scared. Ford are playing neutral, but we all know they are scared too.
Current Team point system guarantees collection of points on each event, as long as driver reaches the finish line.
More WRC2017 cars = less chances to get points.
Yes, they are under huge pressure to deliver, but this is behavior of a looser.

Again, why let competition run on a different rules? Citroen and Hyundai are fully committed to the WRC while VW pulled out and now wants to have special permit to compete. While it is good for spectators it is not equal to the committed teams. Scared is quite wrong word for this. It all should happen on equal basis. You can put this scared card back in to your pocket and put yourself in the position of Hyundai and Citroen management. Quite logical decision from them and I'm not surprised. Imagine Nandan and Matton substantiate their decision letting VW in to the board of Citroen and Hyundai. They would be fired immediately.

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[Barreis]

but how can they lose?! championship started already, the can't compete in manu championship, ogier is not their driver... bad reputation for citroen and hyundai for me after this

[jparker]

Again, why let competition run on a different rules? Citroen and Hyundai are fully committed to the WRC while VW pulled out and now wants to have special permit to compete. While it is good for spectators it is not equal to the committed teams. Scared is quite wrong word for this. It all should happen on equal basis. You can put this scared card back in to your pocket and put yourself in the position of Hyundai and Citroen management. Quite logical decision from them and I'm not surprised. Imagine Nandan and Matton substantiate their decision letting VW in to the board of Citroen and Hyundai. They would be fired immediately.

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Again what? How many times you have to repeat this statement, without reading what others are saying?
Citroen and Hyundai should say nice and clear, if VW is about to return, we want this, this and this paid for. If you don't like it, bye bye.
Nobody here wants VW sneaking into WRC, and getting unfair advantage, but Citroen and Hyundai don't even want to consider VW return, or at least that's my understanding?

[cali]

Because there is only one way in to the WRC.

Aha, Citroen and Hyundai folks are cowards, quite mature of you. No need to discuss this any further.

[jparker]

Because there is only one way in to the WRC.

No,it's not, and it's not up to teams to figure this out. This is FIA's job. Is the only way for the scared, and yes, they are cowards

[rallyfiend]

Again what? How many times you have to repeat this statement, without reading what others are saying?
Citroen and Hyundai should say nice and clear, if VW is about to return, we want this, this and this paid for. If you don't like it, bye bye.
Nobody here wants VW sneaking into WRC, and getting unfair advantage, but Citroen and Hyundai don't even want to consider VW return, or at least that's my understanding?

jparker you miss the point.

VW have already missed the boat when they didn't homologate the car, and didn't enter Monte Carlo.

That means they're out.

Any attempt to bring them back in - regardless of fees paid etc - would be to create an unequal playing field.

Even just the extra time they've had than the others to potentially make changes to the car before homologation is a competitive advantage.

As ever the FIA are just trying to blame others by putting the 'decision' back on the other competitors to decide. It means they can just shrug their shoulders and not actually make any real decision.

[jparker]

jparker you miss the point.

VW have already missed the boat when they didn't homologate the car, and didn't enter Monte Carlo.

That means they're out.

Any attempt to bring them back in - regardless of fees paid etc - would be to create an unequal playing field.

Even just the extra time they've had than the others to potentially make changes to the car before homologation is a competitive advantage.

As ever the FIA are just trying to blame others by putting the 'decision' back on the other competitors to decide. It means they can just shrug their shoulders and not actually make any real decision.

OK, that's fine then. But one who wants to prove it's the best of the best, should welcome more competition, because it will prove more.

[Mintexmemory]

OK, that's fine then. But one who wants to prove it's the best of the best, should welcome more competition, because it will prove more.

...and if it were genuine competition on a level playing field I'm sure the other teams wouldn't have had a problem. BUT to not commit to long haul rounds and allow pick and choosing of the prestige European events (i.e max publicity for the win) is just not an acceptable business model. A world championship car has to be homologated before a private team can use it, end of!

[jparker]

...and if it were genuine competition on a level playing field I'm sure the other teams wouldn't have had a problem. BUT to not commit to long haul rounds and allow pick and choosing of the prestige European events (i.e max publicity for the win) is just not an acceptable business model. A world championship car has to be homologated before a private team can use it, end of!

Well, whoever is scared, it will make all rules available to protect them, and will keep crying "that's not fare". Real contenders are saying "bring it in". That's the difference between winner and looser.